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How putting bofors to protect flank is different than putting Schwerer?
Apart from the fact that Schwerer can defend itself from medium tanks.

Price ? Limitation to 1 ? Having no god mode iwin button ? Having to use pioneers to repair it ? Took me 30 secs to find a decent answer.

Obviously OP. Be it double brits or any combination of brits + anything, this commander takes away a lot of the decision making CoH is about. Sure there are a few counters, but too few, and not efficient enough.

in 1v1 Allies have an advantage in the early game and that's cool, that's what this game is about. in the late game Axis is easier. It's your objective as axis to hold on until lategame for your good vet and units.

what you completely forget is the micro cost. microing US late- and midgame is extremely stressful. As wehr, you can build your mg/pak wall, have some spotters and snipers behind. as US, managing to flank with rifles and smoke grenades and rushing in shermans in the right angle firing smoke and focusing the right units takes a lot more effort


the micro cost is generally neglected by forum discussion. the usual comparisons are "unit vs unit" or "faction vs faction" but the effort of the player and micro intensity of units aren't mentioned.
the jove game wasn't that bad the most time. however there is one point in which jove had a massive army and attacked with every unit at the right spot at the same time. that's an insane amount of skill which few people have but also can comprehend. thats's also the reason for the playercard thingy. without experience you don't understand such "hotspot moments". forum discussions are led in a vacuum with only considering the variables you need.

Thanks for the input. I agree with the fact that the whole asymetry in this game revolves around allies having better early games (especially US), and axis the better lategame (especially OKW). This is the heart of this game. Though i don't agree that WM lategame is good enough to have such a hard early game. The trade is simply not equal. And micro wise, it's not like allies were controling more squads than axis (with every squad costing ~ the same population cap), so again, i'm not sure i am agreeing. It's not like sniper and paks require less micro than say, a sherman flanking ? Again i might be wrong, and this patch might have brought things a bit more towards balanced state (so the whole discussion is maybe obsolete now, still i am waiting to see more games to decide whether or not i shall go on with my personal crusade), since WM vetted infantry is kind of efficient. Until then, hf

probably not great representation but it seems UKF and OKW are doing the best after hotfix patch.

http://coh2chart.com/

USF dropped after hotfix and poor SU has dropped even lower... nobody cares about poor SU

Oh, I'm looking at 1v1s post hotfix btw for those who are curious.

To be fair, i think SU and WM are both in dire need of something, which is kind of sad, it looks like both vanilla factions are being left behind. And yes, this week patch/hotfix seems to make things a bit more even, which is good. We will see what will happen during this week-end ESL.

I watched the game, you killed his 4 or 5 rifles and he replaced them with REs. he particularly played aggressive with his shermans and almost made him to come back.
He stays relevant because he was much more coordinate with his flanking and didn't try to blob unlike you. This is how he gain map control and you lost it many times.

FYI i am not posting games i am playing in, i'm trying to remain as neutral as possible (while obviously defending Wehrmacht 1v1 weak balancing).

Here is a second one, same kind of game, this time Jove (if you come and claim this is a PEBKAC issue, i'll just laugh at you).

US losses at 15 mins mark: 3 rifles, 1 captain, 2 RE
WM losses at 15 mins mark: 1 gren, 1 mg42, 1 222

US losses at 20 mins mark: 4 rifles, 1 captain, 1 major, 2 RE
WM losses at 20 mins mark: 1 gren, 1 mg42, 1 222

Length of the game: 43'48
Final VP count: 89 - 64

Let's call it balanced, ok. Goddamn allied biased forum.

This just proves my point that you have to outskill your opponent greatly to even have a fighting chance as WM in 1v1s. And now to adress your point about the previous replay: you realize you are just proving my point when you say that the WM player was "wrong" to blob, when in fact that's the direct consequence of WM weak infantry ? You have to blob, because every squad is losing their fight against opponents of equal value. That or you have to play cats and mice all game long, which is ridiculous. Where is the tradeoff for US early game dominance ? Lategame weakness ? I fail to see it. Next time i'll upload a replay of Jove playing US vs WM, and we'll see how long the game goes on after this kind of start. Until then, hf in your bubble.

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  second replay for forum discussion purpose.

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