hahah a . I also like your card bellow 1000 with all facs
so wat dont bash him cuz his card, u dont know if he shares with friends or bros |
If you think that of OST, then you are either:
a. Doing it wrong; or
b. Have picked the wrong commander.
Ever heard of an Ostwind + P4 flank combo, with a halftrack and pios to cap?
+1
What game have you been playing that USF has a sniper???
sniper against usa? |
I notice that you completely ignore sensible arguments for the su-85 changes and repeat the same "30% less damage hurr" shill over and over again.
im not ignoring any arguments. what about all the things im pointing out and stating its as if im being ignored if anything. |
but for some reason su85 cant have reload speed back tho. |
elephant gets 50% reload from vet....it has amazing pen range and dmg tigers get reload from vet.. p4 command tank get 30% reload and 30% armor..puma gets +30% sight, +30% accuracy, -20% reload vet2 +33% damage, +20% rotation speed, +20% speed, +20% ac/de-celeration vet3...stug e gets +30% armour, -10% reload vet2 ,30% reload, +20% rotation speed, +20% speed vet3...brumbar 30% armor 40% reload.....take a look at jagdpanzer crazy buffs from vet 2 and up |
Buffing the penetration to 240 while retaining the same vet 2 (and 3) reload speed bonus would make for a hilariously OP SU-85.
look at panthers pen, turret rotation, speed, armor, hp, hull rotation, vet buffs.... same thing could be said of it to. |
I don't agree with your opinion on Ostheer. Ost has quite a few ways to deal with light vehicles.
There is the nondoctinal teller mine that 1-shots all light vehicles.
There is the nondoctrinal faust that you don't need to unlock.
Nondoctrinal and cheap scout car that counters light vehicles cost effectively.
Nondoctrinal Panzerschrek team for urban maps.
AT gun.
You can combine these units in several ways or you could supplement them with doctrinal stuff such as the panzerschrek 250 clownhalftrack.
The 60 fuel treshold for T2 is fine since it does not only provide a broad repertoire of units, but also includes grenade and LMG tech.
As for dealing with MGs in buildings, Ost has snipers, nondoctrinal mortars with smoke, nondoctrinal flamers and nondoctrinal grenades. I am sure you can find a way to combine these units and abilities to clear a building.
this |
It did, but not by using AP shells
then what HE? lol stop playin bro |
I don't know about you guys but when I see a Panther bouncing off a hit by an AT shell from a gun with 10sec reload time, shot by an extremely expensive assault gun, I'd feel cheated.
foreal tho, it says on bulletins thats isu is a true multirole vehicle, and earned the name beast killer for its ability to literally shatter panthers and tigers. |
To people who say DPS "falls off" at vet 2: Do you guys even bother factoring in the armor of the target? What about the chance for those shots to be misses (because accuracy got buffed too)? Because the "math" you guys do only applies if the SU-85 is shooting a kubelwagen at a theoretical and impossible 100% accuracy.
Ugh. You guys need to not be such armchair theorists. i think it should have its 30% constant rate of fire back like all the other tanks to make it fair it does lose dps cus 30% haste/ROF > a little % chance to penetrate. the base pen buff was enough penetration
Edit: every other tank gets better by vet2-3 su85 dont anymore |