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One weakness of rifle commander i find is fast p4 in 2vs 2 and above.They tend to wait for e8 often or tech captain late after the flak halftrack..quick pushing with couple pz 4s gives them very much trouble if u can backit up with lmg grens Their only def is often bazookas as AT,if u use panzer tactician and kite its very difficult for them.
Often i'll get 3-4 grens and 1 mg 42 then tech to upgrade lmg 42s.Then either 1 pak and t3 or straight t3 for pz 4.This doesn't work against sov because of zis and at grenades plus t-34. |
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I loved the pershing in coh 1 but it would remove usa lategame any issue.Pershing with jacksons in back would be unstoppable.
As for versatality why not zooka rangers?
Sherman jumbo would be alright too.
USA need a few different inf types . |
Thread: Elefant27 Jul 2014, 06:23 AM
This unit and its commanders have basically become extinct unlike isu.Its immensely costly,comes very late,extremely slow..now only 70 range and thus easily flanked.It also had health nerf before range nerf..can't do anything to inf and now very vulnerable to bazookas.So my question is why is this unit not being looked at?
Range buff would regress on the recent changes,so no but i feel it needs cost reduction to around 200 fuel for people to consider using it as a lategame option,given how vulnerable it is now and sloow,plus no anti infantry this would be imo only way to make these 2 commanders useable again.
Thoughts. |
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Been saying this for ages.Sherman,easy eight and t-34/85 with 85 and e8 being primary culprits..this added to panther uselessness is teh source of this problem.U can't fight these with pz 4s,stugs with pak support are merely defensive options.Tiger only can go toe to toe unless u allow urself to be circled.Its a extremely 'limiting' feeling.I spend shitass resources to tech and get p4s and he gets free t-34/85 and e8 and spams them just as or even more fficeintly and u have almost no chance vs these.Panther inaccessible.pak only defensive option.Tiger too late.Elefant useless. |
Okay tracking down Katyusha may be a problem, but so is tracking down stuka!
Except u can get 1 stuka,soviets can get spam endless katyusha.Lose 1 or 2 no problem. |
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But something must be done to maxims..main problem is the spam in team games.Main thing is zis also comes from same building sov an mg that can lock down and be used as an assualt unit supported by an at gun early which reduecs its vulnerability to lights.In team games with another player supporting this is devastatinga nd simple.With just 15 reinforce its dirt cheap.
Build time should be increased heavily of maxim to prevent spam early.Essentially u can get maxims but not 3-4 quickly.Giving opponent time before he can am,ass that critical mass of mgs.Right now spam is too fast,cost effective and overperforming.
In 1 vs 1 its less problematic. |
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As ostheer too its getting ridiculous.U have to defend a lot with ostheer with mgs and paks..this unit is compleletely slaughtering that in no time..1 volley killing lone squads..and its firing 4 every 60 seconds.Now make that 2 of these ..In team games its ridiculously OP..even for ost who can't respond because their own arty is inaccesible. |
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For now my advice would be to veto lienz crossing and ettelbruck completely for 4 vs 4 players .2 vs 2 its more tricky but easier to kill too.In open maps its easier.Ettelbruck and lienz autoloss.Probably rzhev too haven't played.Just build a defense line across the river..su-85s also excel at that kind of play. |
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I use panzer tactician as wehr,u'll see pz 4 do well with this,smoke eliminates long ranged adv. |
@up
But if you're going for panther you should have at the very least 2 paks and possibly shrecks, so its not like that panther would be the only source of AT.
And not only u opponent too would have supporting units.Ur argument is invalid as it always has been because paks are not much good in offensive pushes,superb defensive option they may be.And no one gets multiple shrecks pzgrens due to mp sink and huge upg muni unless u don't want an AI force of lmg grens.Add tech price for ost.I don't pay 175 fuel and huge teching to get a tank that can defend only. |
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