How are Infantrysections since patch?

Jump back to quoted post17 Oct 2019, 20:34 PMblvckdream

After playing some UKF in the last days there is one thing I really don't understand.

Everybody agreed that UKF being overly static was cancerous to play against. Now they made Infantry Sections completely incapable of attacking anything because they die too easily out of cover. So the problem of being static (something that nobody) liked has become even worse. So what is the point of it?

Jump back to quoted post17 Oct 2019, 20:59 PMblvckdream

I don't like the idea of emplacements at all. UKF needs non-doctrinal indirect fire or smoke OUTSIDE the mortar pit. Maybe make pyro Sections more effective or give them something else so they can counter static play and MGs.

Before the Infantry Section nerf it was meta to blob up Sections to wipe MGs, infantry etc. After the nerf you have to blob even harder because Infantry Sections are absolutely terrible at pushing enemies now. What is the point of it? On top of that there was also a weird buff to vet 3 accuracy which makes no sense to me because Infantry Sections struggle in early and not in late game.

The best way to go about it would have been to slightly tone down Infantry Sections DPS from 30-35. They were never OP in close to mid-range anyway. That wouldn't have hurt their ability to push positions but still made them less cancerous as before. They also wouldn't be able to death loop MGs anymore because of the change and a moving them would be worse in general.

I just don't understand why they were pushed into being even more static than before when everyone agreed overly static faction design is bad?

Jump back to quoted post23 Oct 2019, 20:28 PMthedarkarmadillo

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Jump back to quoted post17 Oct 2019, 20:38 PMthedarkarmadillo

Where the hell does this "Tommies are squishy" bull shit come from?

Jump back to quoted post2 Jan 2020, 14:36 PMjackill2611

Remove tommys' minimal grenade range - at least they would be able to defend themselves better when in cover.

Jump back to quoted post2 Jan 2020, 15:02 PMdistrofio

Only if you remove the friendly fire damage reduction grenades have.

After that, you can play russian roulette with grenades all you want.

Jump back to quoted post3 Jan 2020, 00:54 AMthedarkarmadillo

I'd like to see a mad minute ability stock that improves their ROF (and thus dps) at the cost of munitions. Bit more bite at a cost.

Jump back to quoted post3 Jan 2020, 00:54 AMthedarkarmadillo

I'd like to see a mad minute ability stock that improves their ROF (and thus dps) at the cost of munitions. Bit more bite at a cost.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2020, 21:41 PMDoomlord52

I think the "DPS Curve" over game-time needs to be adjusted down, specifically mid-game.

In the early game, I'll agree that IS' are a bit on the weak side, and rely too much on cover bonuses. However, once they hit mid game, their early vet bonuses COMBINED with double-brens AND bolster results in a far too resilient and mobile DPS-blob. If the IS' had to stay still for a while to setup, and took ages to rotate (i.e. LMG-grens), that would be one thing; but their setup AND turn rates are incredibly fast, meaning that you can 'stutter-step' them extremely efficiently. In addition, once you have 3 or 4 of them in a blob (seemingly very common, especially as games get bigger), they can easily take MGs head-on due to this.

Once players reach late-game, this DPS-blob is somewhat manageable for axis players, thanks to "anti-blob" weapons and their own vetted and upgraded infantry, so I don't think that needs to be adjusted.

This could be achieved by delaying either bolster or brens (but not both); however, I'm not sure on how the exact implementation of this would work. Non-bolstered IS+Brens are fine, and Bolstered IS are also fine; it's the combination of all three.

Jump back to quoted post2 Jan 2020, 15:02 PMdistrofio

Only if you remove the friendly fire damage reduction grenades have.

After that, you can play russian roulette with grenades all you want.