Wehrmacht September patch discussion

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 08:32 AMSmartie

I welcome most of the changes but im disappointed that Wehrmacht doesnt get commander specific changes like OKW, Soviets and USF.

Lets be honest:
Mobile defense was already awful after the changes to the Puma but now its
"nuked out of existence" with the changes to the Commando P4. It was not used before why should players choose it now?
Please be consequent now and change the commander accordingly - it really needs massive changes!

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 09:02 AMHannibal

While the rework for merge-units sounds interesting, I don't think that your idea will translate well into the game.
Apart from that: This thread is patchnote discussion, if you want to suggest and discuss a different change, please open a new thread or reuse a recent one. Otherwise it's getting confusing in here

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 10:11 AMelchino7

The command PIV change is a fix but it is irrelevant in 2 senses. That it still fulfill it's job of preventing wipes and adding a +1 shell survival to all tanks but in it's current form won't be a top choice, cause it already isn't.

If the unit needs love, it could be improved through MG DPS so it turns into a support AI tank.

As long as the unit buff allied units with dmg modifiers, it will always be hard to balance. You could try reverting some nerfs and make it so it only affects your own tanks and only allied infantry/support weapons.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 11:26 AMStug life

the stug would like to have a word with u as 144 x 4 > 560

And we all know how much the stug is used

Even worse for the puma now the cp4 does nothing for it both vs 120 damage and 160, it’s just a jk now

Change it to 0.85 so it actually give 1 more hit to all tanks at least (puma will still be a jk)

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:10 PMelchino7

Point taken. Same probably happens with 1080 and higher HP vehicles.

Thing is, the problem is AoE aura dmg modifiers. The less we have in the game, the less fringe cases of it breaking the game we will find. Just remember how the FHQ was reworked in the soviet commander.

I'll say it again, if the unit provides strong aura ONLY to owned units, then most of the nerfs can be reverted. If the aura applies to only allied infantry and support weapons, the unit remains strong but it won't suddenly boost unrealistic amount of armor units which can never be fielded on 1v1 but break the game on other modes.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:20 PMDangerous-Cloth

Nothing for grens? They still struggle with their 4 men squads, especially vs the soon to be earlier on the field 7 men cons.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:13 PMStug life

the make affect ur own units only or at least ur own tanks only, but put the buff back to 0.8 and make it apply to itself

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:44 PMStug life

Sniper vs 6 men lol
Especially now with the new su sniper

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:52 PMBalanced_Gamer

I do not know if it supposed to be a thing but...

When you compare the vet between Wehr Sniper and SU Sniper.

SU sniper shoots slightly faster. Only if you look closely, you can see that is merely shoots faster by a second, possibly two.

Is it supposed to be that way?

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:55 PMKatitof

They have identical stats.
Stop the bs.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 13:31 PMJilet

People justify ost as an combined arms faction by simply looking at the mg42. But in how many occasions you can go for a succesful assault with mg42 and its really long deploy

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 13:39 PMKatitof

Then I suppose its good that you can get and vet PGs earlier then ever before and 251 packed with utility can back grens early.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 13:52 PMAlphrum

The issue with grens is with being 4 man and getting wiped too easily. They need a 5th man non doc upgrade