How come Axis infantry get all the snares?
18 Jul 2019, 03:37 AM
#1
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Seriously, almost every Axis infantry unit gets snares galore. Only Riflemen or Cav Rifles get snares with USF. Dumb that they increased the repair cost of the UC so Axis wouldn't cry. Letting them waste munitions on fausting UCs was a sound tactic.
18 Jul 2019, 04:15 AM
#2
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If by all all you mean osttruppen and grens from ost and fussies falls and volks. Also allies dont face clown car flamethrowers and nicely durable bren carriers at first 5 minutes as axies do. Having light vehicles is quite powerful and its balance decision to allow axis some way to defending against them.
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18 Jul 2019, 04:17 AM
#3
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Well for OKW sturmpioneers dont get snares overs dont get snares JLI dont get snares either- and fusilier LOSE their snare if you give them panzershreks.
For ostheer ostruppen grenadiers and the jaeger command squad have snares, all the rest dont.
I'm just not seeing how axis infantry have "all the snares" or "all have snares" whichever you meant neither are true.
For ostheer ostruppen grenadiers and the jaeger command squad have snares, all the rest dont.
I'm just not seeing how axis infantry have "all the snares" or "all have snares" whichever you meant neither are true.
18 Jul 2019, 04:23 AM
#4
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Theres actually more allied infantry that gets snares than axis inf.
18 Jul 2019, 06:26 AM
#6
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What Aarotron said. Axis face T0 light vehicles that can’t be killed by a single squad’s rifle fire, so they need a way to fight back.
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18 Jul 2019, 06:55 AM
#7
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Seriously, almost every Axis infantry unit gets snares galore. Only Riflemen or Cav Rifles get snares with USF. Dumb that they increased the repair cost of the UC so Axis wouldn't cry. Letting them waste munitions on fausting UCs was a sound tactic.
Snares galore? Here is a break-down of what units can actually snare you.
Axis:
Volks-Gren, Pfus (Before AT upgrade), Falls - OKW
Grens - Ost
Allies:
Cons, Penals, AT Partisans - USSR
Rifleman, Cav Rifles - US
Royal Engineers, Tank Hunter IS - UK
Notice how the snares are usually on line infantry? I even highlighted the non-doctrinal stuff for you.
18 Jul 2019, 08:04 AM
#8
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Hmm...when i count right...axis has less snares than allies overall.
18 Jul 2019, 09:22 AM
#9
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Hmm...when i count right...axis has less snares than allies overall.
Allies having more factions will lead to that, yes.
Glad you can come to an accurate conclusion about the obvious.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
18 Jul 2019, 09:35 AM
#10
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Hmm...when i count right...axis has less snares than allies overall.hmmm count how many commanders have access to said units vs allies
18 Jul 2019, 10:36 AM
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Seriously, almost every Axis infantry unit gets snares galore. Only Riflemen or Cav Rifles get snares with USF. Dumb that they increased the repair cost of the UC so Axis wouldn't cry. Letting them waste munitions on fausting UCs was a sound tactic.
- Soviets get con AT 'nade.
- Soviet gets AT Satchel.
- Soviet gets M3 Scout Car w Penal inside.
- Brits get engineer AT 'nade.
- Brits get Universal Carrier w Infantry Section within.
- Brits get (Hammer) Gammon bomb.
- USA gets Vet 1 rifleman AT 'nade
- USA gets Mechanized Jeep w Cavalry Riflemen inside.
Axis don't get light carrier vehicle quite as early.
If Allies get their snares early and free, axis get early armored units.
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People complain the Soviets are useless.
Well, they are useless if you fight your units 1vs1. But they are all about Synergy.
What do I care if you have a Panther? Once you are crippled from running over a mine
I wait until you repair it with your 3x SturmPioneers and tell my 3x Mortars to fire at it.
did you know Vet 1 Mortars get FLARE?!
- 900 Manpower down the drain. - Panther still can't move worth a damn.
Well, they are useless if you fight your units 1vs1. But they are all about Synergy.
What do I care if you have a Panther? Once you are crippled from running over a mine
I wait until you repair it with your 3x SturmPioneers and tell my 3x Mortars to fire at it.
did you know Vet 1 Mortars get FLARE?!
- 900 Manpower down the drain. - Panther still can't move worth a damn.
18 Jul 2019, 13:03 PM
#12
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Snares/ slows
OKW: Volks, Fusseliers, Fallies
Ost: grens, Osttroops,
UKF: pio, Tank hunder tommys;
USF: Rifles, Cavalry squad
Sov: cons, Guards, penals, AT partisans
OKW: Volks, Fusseliers, Fallies
Ost: grens, Osttroops,
UKF: pio, Tank hunder tommys;
USF: Rifles, Cavalry squad
Sov: cons, Guards, penals, AT partisans
18 Jul 2019, 13:06 PM
#13
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Snares/ slows
OKW: Volks, Fusseliers, Fallies
Ost: grens, Osttroops,
UKF: pio, Tank hunder tommys;
USF: Rifles, Cavalry squad
Sov: cons, Guards, penals, AT partisans
You should also count TWP and Puma aimed shot of you are counting anything that can slow/snare.
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18 Jul 2019, 13:13 PM
#14
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You should also count TWP and Puma aimed shot of you are counting anything that can slow/snare.
i also didnt count aec or ukf sniper....they are verhixles...OP talk about snares on inf.
What is wrong with my snares? satchels??
18 Jul 2019, 13:42 PM
#15
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hmmm count how many commanders have access to said units vs allies
This isn't a meaningful metric. You don't get one of each squad every game.
Every faction has snares on their mainline infantry or their engineers: they can all have a good supply of snare-equipped infantry if they want it.
It doesn't matter if Faction X has a bazillion doctrinal elite infantry squads with snares. They're only relevant if you pick their commander, and they're only going to make up a small part of your army.
18 Jul 2019, 13:46 PM
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This thread has no reason to be in the balance section.
18 Jul 2019, 14:48 PM
#17
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i also didnt count aec or ukf sniper....they are verhixles...OP talk about snares on inf.
What is wrong with my snares? satchels??
Ah my apologies. Someone did say AEC and I think I auto filled it into yours.
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18 Jul 2019, 17:11 PM
#18
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Because axis need "more" (read: not really more) snares in order to avoid having an EVEN WORSE win rate compared to allies 
18 Jul 2019, 17:20 PM
#19
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Was this secretly a thread to teach people how to count under the guise of a gameplay complaint?
We should call in the count.
One snare... a-ha-haaaa
Two snares... a-ha-haaaa
We should call in the count.
One snare... a-ha-haaaa
Two snares... a-ha-haaaa
18 Jul 2019, 17:25 PM
#20
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Oh dear. Allies have MORE snares including very powerful satchel charges. What's more, they often combine snares on the same unit with ant tank weapons (you can have a bazooka, ptrs, and a snare on one unit) Axis often face light vehicles and tanks rolling over their anti tank infantry with a vehicle making them unable to use a panzershreck (they cant stand still snd dont fire or just get crushed by a tank). Impossible against allies as they will snare you. So actually its the other way around. Allies have a lot of snares combined often with at weapons, which makes closing to those units impossible. Its a huge tactical advantage.
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