Lend Lease Assault Quad Rush

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2019, 12:13 PMCrecer13

I am interested in another Land-Lease M5, why the Soviet Lend-Lease Guards assault group with the M5 did not become cheaper? After all, the M5 in T3 has become cheaper.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2019, 12:14 PMKatitof

Soviet quad so irrelevant, wasn't even mentioned, while it arrives extremely late, behind its window of opportunity

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2019, 16:48 PMVipper

Not to mention:
M5 drive by with Thompson/bren
Fast M10 to counter enemy vehicles

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2019, 16:59 PMaerafield

USF can also rush a fast (4-5 min) M3 Assault Halftrack with cavalry riflemen inside. It can be strong and useful at times, but it never seemed like "oh my god this is so broken!" to me, and I have used it countless times already.

It may be fair however to lock the quad mount behind the t3 brit building

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2019, 17:26 PMVipper

Yet other seem to thing it is too strong.
USF - General Faction Changes

WC 51 Dodge and M3

Passenger moving accuracy from 50% to 30%.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2019, 18:07 PMaerafield

This M3 nerf has only been made because the balance team thinks that bazooka M3s are too strong, and there is no way of just nerfing the Bazooka passenger accuracy without nerfing everything

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2019, 18:43 PMJPA32

I'm not sure if this is as scary as it appears. Without Bolster or Nades Tommies just get smashed by anything that looks at them funny. I don't know if you'd be able to maintain map control required for the fast 55 Fuel to make this strategy work when your mainline infantry all get pushed off the field. Might depend on if you're on a good map for early game turtling and can get a good Vickers up in a defensible position near the Fuel.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2019, 12:06 PMLago

snip.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2019, 16:59 PMaerafield

It may be fair however to lock the quad mount behind the t3 brit building

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 13:45 PMSuperHansFan

FHT for wehr can be rushed at 5:30, I saw hans do this to some rank 20 guy yesterday and he wiped two units before 57mm or stuart could be built. (He did not build T1 tho)



The fix for quad timing is easy, like the old luch just slap 30secs on the build time and make the quad 30 seconds upgrade or something. No need to lock it behind T3 or something so silly and throw it on the trash heap like the Soviet one.

Let's remind everyone this doctrine is already VERY muni heavy with thompson upgrade and flame nades. Brits also need to pump the most muni into healing early game so finding muni for the quad isn't exactly easy. Personally I think this thread is a little overblown but if it turns out OP like I say adjusting 30-60 secs or so on build and upgrade time is the most logical fix

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 14:04 PMLoopDloop

An alternate solution would be to put a CP lock on the quad upgrade. Maybe like 3-4 CPs.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 13:45 PMSuperHansFan

FHT for wehr can be rushed at 5:30, I saw hans do this to some rank 20 guy yesterday and he wiped two units before 57mm or stuart could be built. (He did not build T1 tho)

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 15:10 PMGrim

The only use I have ever found for the quad is piss off teams spamming skillplanes and stopping recon. I only use it in a combat role in emergencies, it just isn't worth it otherwise.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 15:10 PMGrim

The only use I have ever found for the quad is piss off teams spamming skillplanes and stopping recon. I only use it in a combat role in emergencies, it just isn't worth it otherwise.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 15:05 PMLago

The simplest solution is to put it as a CP3 call-in. The USF variant already is.



Flamer halftrack's got a rush time of 70 FU, and doesn't suppress infantry counters.