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Should all AT rifle have normal rifle accuracy？

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Penal and cons PTRS need change？
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WAAAGH2000
7 Apr 2019, 07:40 AM
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Yes，I mean PTRS for penal and cons（they are same weapon），I agree upgrade PTRS reduce AI dps，but I disagree “lost” AI ability，so I think it can balance dps at other date
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Katitof
7 Apr 2019, 08:09 AM
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We've been there, done that and it leads to bad things.
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Vipper
7 Apr 2019, 09:02 AM
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Imo At weapons should not be able to hit infantry.

AI could could come from timed abilities increasing the AI for a limited timed.

The ability could be named "take aim" and work like "hit the ground" but giving AT rifles AI for the duration.

this ability should limited to units like Guards and Tank hunters.
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SeductiveCardbordBox
7 Apr 2019, 10:14 AM
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As funny as it was for conscripts to actually be useful - no. It's supposed to be a trade off for AT with good reason.
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borobadger
7 Apr 2019, 13:21 PM
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Penals were broken when the PTRS upgrade destroyed infantry too
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thedarkarmadillo
7 Apr 2019, 13:53 PM
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Hard no. at should be a choice not an easy transition.
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Balanced_Gamer
7 Apr 2019, 14:03 PM
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It is like saying Panzershreks will have AI capabilities. I would say no. It can not be one sided otherwise it has to be all AT to get some AI damage.

I would say no. All AT weaponry should lose their AI damage capabilites. Surprisingly Guard Rifle Infantry is the only unit that seems to break that concept.
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borobadger
7 Apr 2019, 14:30 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Apr 2019, 14:03 PMBalanced_Gamer
It is like saying Panzershreks will have AI capabilities. I would say no. It can not be one sided otherwise it has to be all AT to get some AI damage.

I would say no. All AT weaponry should lose their AI damage capabilites. Surprisingly Guard Rifle Infantry is the only unit that seems to break that concept.


Guards AI is poor until they get the DP28 upgrade though
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Balanced_Gamer
8 Apr 2019, 13:05 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Apr 2019, 14:30 PMborobadger


Guards AI is poor until they get the DP28 upgrade though


That is true. Their PTRS hits frequently against infantry dealing 27 damage, which is a lot of damage. They are quite superior in terms of long range. Even without upgrade.

Upgrade just makes them a lot better. This is the SU solution if you do not want to sacrifice Penals with PTRS upgrade. Take Guard Rifle Infantry instead!!!
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adamírcz
8 Apr 2019, 13:12 PM
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Maybe, but unfortunately, PTRSes are too terrible even against LVs, to be specialized AT, so they would need a buff elsewhere if their AI gets removed
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EtherealDragon
8 Apr 2019, 15:30 PM
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You clearly weren't around for the "Dank Hunters" patch where you could just spam PTRS cons and hard counter everything through the early-mid game. Fun times.
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