Thoughts on Panzergrenadiers

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 04:44 AMLoopDloop

Is that ability even useful? Because as far as I remember it trashes your cav rifles damage and speed too, even more so than the other squad.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 09:59 AMVipper

What ever changes PGs get they should have reinforcement (and maybe built time) reduced.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2019, 03:45 AMSuperHansFan

But people said pgren rush never works and grens are mandatory...

Erm you can build them as your fourth unit. Considering they utterly demolish cons etc I think timing is fine

https://youtu.be/8EqdhgfMXSg

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2019, 03:45 AMSuperHansFan

But people itt said pgren rush never works and grens are mandatory...

Erm you can build them as your fourth unit. Considering they utterly demolish cons etc I think timing is fine

https://youtu.be/8EqdhgfMXSg

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2019, 03:46 AMSuperHansFan

Why should they come any earlier? Watch the timing in the vid I just posted

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2019, 03:45 AMSuperHansFan

But people itt said pgren rush never works and grens are mandatory...

Erm you can build them as your fourth unit. Considering they utterly demolish cons etc I think timing is fine

https://youtu.be/8EqdhgfMXSg

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2019, 08:20 AMKatitof

If soviet went T1 instead of con memes, the game wouldn't even last 5 minutes as M3 would dominate ost so hard, he'd just be reinfrocing everything at HQ being dried out of resources and cut of off whole map.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2019, 04:30 AMAntemurale

4 min 18 sec is crazy fast, and it usually doesn't happen that way. 5-6 min is the more usual timing.

As a person who almost exclusively plays T2 rush as WM, Cons are not the issue. The issue is when they are matched up against Riflemen with weapon upgrades, IS with weapon upgrades (bolstered sections alone are difficult to beat), and any of the elite infantry the allies can field.

I would say that timing might be helpful, as it closes the gap between when you can field PGrens (which are supposed to match up against somewhat vetted stock infantry). However, I would say that the main issue is not timing.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2019, 05:20 AMdistrofio

Because getting a 4th squad only to trash cons is super useful as OH after min 5.
Yeah, sure.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2019, 12:41 PMSuperHansFan

If you watch the video you'll see vet 3 pgrens wiping plenty of vet shocks. Which some people on this forum argue are the most OP allied elites.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2019, 13:29 PMLago

I did. The Shocks clumped up on a bundle grenade.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2019, 12:41 PMSuperHansFan

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Really why I am posting what I am because I fear you guys will unleash another Jaeger situation on us. And before you know it it's going to be pgren rush and nothing else but this time they will be non doc.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2019, 10:29 AMLago

In a 1v1, no, it's not. The idea is you have a second squad with the Cav Rifles to put the damage out.

In practice, USF doesn't have many targets for it: I can't think of many infantry matchups where Cavs aren't more effective pumping damage out.

Put it on an Ost unit and you can use it on Shocks, Rangers and Thompson Paratroopers though.

Jump back to quoted post11 Apr 2019, 14:20 PMthedarkarmadillo

They already have good AI. armour and to the last man relies too much on RNG and that's not what they need they need reliability. A damage reduction would give a straight reliable durability buff without loops and hoops and the possibility that they do nothing entirely. Armour adds another dice to them that can still say fuck you if it wants to. Damage reduction is guaranteed.

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2019, 07:35 AMKatitof

I was ranked 47 in axis and 64 in allies in 2s, when my 2v2 mate was still alive, but suit yourself.