I think the comet tank is due for a buff.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2019, 17:34 PMSuperHansFan

I think here lies the problem though, it's a more armoured Cromwell with worse vet and costs an arm and a leg in both price, popcap and tech. You have a few useful abilities but they have all seen nerfs or are still bugged (WP).

It's simply not worth the cost and scales terribly which is why pro players like Hans just build two Cromwells. If you stall you can bully a p4 with it but by the time you stall for a comet you will have zero map control and he will have a command panther or panther next to his P4 anyway

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2019, 19:58 PMthedarkarmadillo

I know the FF does 200 damage, but what about giving the comet 200 damage? It wouldn't effect most targets but in the big picture of the battle it makes it a bit better. It also slightly improves AI and gives it a slight advantage vs heavier armour. Coupled with the new snare it could make it a more attractive unit in a combined arms approach without making a single one or swarm too strong.

The 15 extra range itself will keep the FF relevant despite that

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2019, 20:43 PMStug life

yes sightly i mean it's only 40 damage buff is not like infantry has 80 hp .... oh wait

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2019, 17:45 PMthedarkarmadillo

How does its vet stack against the cromwell? I wouldn't see issue with mirroring it (the t34s are the same, commit to that sort of design) but for the price difference to the cromwell the comet is acceptable. It has the most armour of any medium now does it not?

As for the p4 and panther matchup, it shouldn't be a no Brainer no matter the enemy lineup, it will Excell against some builds and be less effective against others. Against panthers you would be better off with a churchill and firefly than comets and cromwell anyways, but against p4s you can do no better than the comet. I think that's reasonable.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2019, 22:50 PMcomm_ash

I think it would be interesting to fully embrace the mobile/ offensive theme of hammer:

Nerf:
-Lower armor to Cromwell level
-Lower health to 720 (maybe)

Buff
-Increase accuracy on the move to .75
-Increase penetration
-Better Vet
-Better MGs
-Increase turret rotation speed and reduce target size (maybe)

Would make it the opposite of a Churchill. Now the comet relies on speed and hit and run tactics to defeat the enemy, instead of fighting 1 on 1 engagements with enemy tanks. Not sure if it would be viable at that high of a price, and would probably ruin the unit for teamgames. Still, I think it could be interesting.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2019, 22:50 PMcomm_ash

I think it would be interesting to fully embrace the mobile/ offensive theme of hammer:

Nerf:
-Lower armor to Cromwell level
-Lower health to 720 (maybe)

Buff
-Increase accuracy on the move to .75
-Increase penetration
-Better Vet
-Better MGs
-Increase turret rotation speed and reduce target size (maybe)

Would make it the opposite of a Churchill. Now the comet relies on speed and hit and run tactics to defeat the enemy, instead of fighting 1 on 1 engagements with enemy tanks. Not sure if it would be viable at that high of a price, and would probably ruin the unit for teamgames. Still, I think it could be interesting.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2019, 13:30 PMKurobane

One of the main issues with COH 2 is the lack of a clearly defined role for certain units such as the Comet. The Comet tries to do way too many things at once and ends up doing nothing good for the cost/price associated with the unit.

One thing that the British lack is a Heavy Tank such as the Tiger/IS-2 etc. The Comet was considered to be one of the best British tanks during WW-2 so this tank is a candidate to fill such a role within the British army composition. The Comet could be adjusted to become the British version of the Pershing without creating a unit that is flat out better than the Panther/Firefly and overlapping with other units.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2019, 17:52 PMCorMovus

The problem is that you can have multiple comets. If the Comet would be a good allrounder (can deal with armour/inf cost-effective) is durable (so you can stack them up offer the game) and can be spammed they could become a no-brainer.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2019, 18:00 PMKatitof

They already are very expensive.

If a unit is not cost effective(which comet is not), it needs either price cut and stat buff.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2019, 18:51 PMStug life

*laughs in king tiger*

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2019, 20:22 PMSander93

Even though the IS-2's performance isn't remarkably better, it is much more useful as a unit itself since it doesn't cost a fortune to unlock (the opposite rather). The amount of IS-2s versus amount of KTs called in in GCS2 and AC tourneys proves that. But let's not go off topic.