Rear Echeleons need reworking.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2018, 13:12 PMthedarkarmadillo

At release volley fire actually worked too.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2018, 19:48 PMmondeogaming1

The thing is HOW you get them vet and there DPS doesnt matter when sturms and grens volks pios literally destroy you i am jsut saying they are not so good use for USF

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2018, 19:48 PMmondeogaming1

The thing is HOW you get them vet and there DPS doesnt matter when sturms and grens volks pios literally destroy you i am jsut saying they are not so good use for USF

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2018, 00:17 AMShadowLinkX37

I believe they call them bazookas

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2018, 23:53 PMVipper

In that case I advice you to compare if pioneers (also a 200 manpower unit) do better vs penals also a 300 manpower unit.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2018, 00:29 AMJae For Jett

I'll just say that multiple rear echelon starts are better than people seem to be giving it credit for.

Also, all of these ideas have to keep upgunned RE performance in mind too. Make the REs too cheap or cost too little to reinforce, and they become hyper efficient weapon carriers.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2018, 06:29 AMmondeogaming1

yes i did but IF pioneers get close they do more damage that rear echelons cuz rear echelons cant even aim at long range

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2018, 07:22 AMGreenDevil

If you're losing the early game as USF, you are getting outplayed by a better player.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2018, 08:40 AMVipper

RE echelons have better DPS than pioneers from range 14 and above. They also have better DPS the combat engineers at all ranges. That combat abilities are in line with other units of their class and cost.

Penal simply shred pioneers that try to close in.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2018, 19:06 PMmiragefla

Also, it would be nice if USF can destroy their Fighting Position and get a full or partial refund; would help Rear Echelon to 'bunny-hop' and get more usage of their rifle grenades.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2018, 09:20 AMmondeogaming1

combat engineers have better DPS from what i have seen from coh2 stats at close range but i see your point anyway at least all i want to see from rear echelon rework is a little voley fire buff maybe a penalty nerf only that nothing else.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2018, 09:32 AMVipper

No RE are better than CE in all ranges and actually RE become much better at close range. Check cruzz or firesprak.

Volley fire is problematic because it available from start and has to be balanced with and without weapon upgrade.

Imo the best way to balance the ability would be to become vet 1 that scales with veterancy (penalties reduced bonus increased with each vet level) and/or require a weapon (M1919 or bar).

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2018, 08:40 AMVipper

RE echelons have better DPS than pioneers from range 14 and above. They also have better DPS the combat engineers at all ranges. That combat abilities are in line with other units of their class and cost.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2018, 13:22 PMmondeogaming1

I hope for all of this that you quoted doesnt involve me...

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2018, 13:23 PMEsxile

DPS calculation includes accuracy?