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No they can't.They just can get damaged so much that you can not use them for building troops anymore.You just need to repair them with pioneers and that's it ... no fuel and manpower to invest for getting the base again like with other fractions.
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Accusing someone of not having a playercard while thinking sections are worse than grens? 0.8 vs 0.91 RA, cover bonus, double upgrading, better vet..... all for a measly 40mp and they cost the same pop cap. The only thing unique about grens is the rifle nade. Get your head checked. Brits don't have their own sniper? Yes u need to wait 4 minutes. Are you saying that you're such a scrub that you lose in 4 min?
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it's the only point here relevant to discussion, because you're rather deluded if you think annihilation victories are even relevant to balance.
Games aren't decided by who can destroy their HQ faster, hence why you're the only guy in three years to complain about something so minor.
Not to mention that unbeknownst to dear Mr. Matrix knowledge, making both UKF and USF bases similar to that of Ostheer or Soviets would benefit both of those factions greatly as the possibility of having buildings build-able close to the edge of the base sector is a great advantage and far outweigh the possibility of having these buildings destroyed more easily; and would be especially for the USF who have to be ridiculously close to their base to be able to reinforce.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
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You must be new here. You call 222 rush vs brits utter nonsense. I call it a past meta that still works to a degree.
You know, you can get more than one 222 if your aim is to destroy enemy base. If your opponent wishes to counter you with small arms then you just calmly take double fuel while he fights in his base and push out more 222s. If he builds an AEC, he is totally screwed against this, as AEC usually dies to 2 222s and has absolutely no chance against 3 of them. There are some way to counter this strategy though. You can go AT sections. You can mine base entrance. And you can get an AT gun. That is, if you are able to tech before first 222 comes for you
Btw, flaming is not allowed here so I think you should work on your language and temper. Just a friendly advice.
You seem to of forgot about OKW, they dont require there SPs to setup there trucks either.
They can match a gren out of cover at long range. They only lose at short range.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
Posts: 518
did u this time check your facts? or are u talking about stuff without knowledge again? ^^
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
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I see you've convienesntly ignored the fact Gren MG42 and rifle nade is free from side tech cost and most importantly they have a snare to deal with vehicles.
Now with the nerf brens are roughly the same with a single MG42 squad in DPS, so you can't really fall back on that line either.
Cover bonus was also nerfed, as were tommy snipers that were removed from vet 3. Trenches were also hit by the nerf bat too.
Are you still living 12months in the past? Brits have the weakest early game my dude
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Just tested it.On long range (and without cover) Grens and IS performe around the same,on mid range IS wins and on close range too
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You seem to of forgot about OKW, they dont require there SPs to setup there trucks either.
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everyting axis has is free right ? always the same arguemnt
I see you've convienesntly ignored the fact Gren MG42 and rifle nade is free from side tech cost and most importantly they have a snare to deal with vehicles.
Now with the nerf brens are roughly the same with a single MG42 squad in DPS, so you can't really fall back on that line either.
Cover bonus was also nerfed, as were tommy snipers that were removed from vet 3. Trenches were also hit by the nerf bat too.
Are you still living 12months in the past? Brits have the weakest early game my dude
Katitof-2018
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How often do I have to say this again ? I am NOT talking about a total destroyed base but about the enemy entering the base,destroying a building and then fall back again.Against SU/OKW/OST this works but not against UKF/USF
So why is everybody raging if it is actually a buff ?(Btw I do not get why making the UKF/USF bases destroyable should allow them to put their bases where they want but ok ... that's another topic)
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I didn't forget about OKW. Sturms cost 300 and 8 pop while western allies: 200/210. Rear ech don't even need to repair due to free crews therefore the 5 pop unit can easily afford to retreat to base and build. The duties of sturms are far more taxing than other repair units.
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Would @vipper mind using his magical number crunching powers to tell us how long it takes a 222 to kill a UKF or usf base? Because I recall it being somewhat time consuming even with a proper tank (or gagle of tanks?) so I'm not personally seeing the opportunity to base rape that early.
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Thanks to inspiration taken from this thread, glorious Relic matchmaking and high-quality British balance, I can confirm it takes 2:03 on the in-game clock for a 222 to solo a British T1 building.
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So every faction should have to get there engineers to build there tech structures apart from OKW because there SPs cost 300mp. You are aware that OKW free starting unit is SPs yeah. So the 300mp is kind of irrelevent unless you are one of the players that lose there SPs in the first few minutes of the game. Brits also have to tech to tier 1 before they can access engineers so I dont quite understand how you expect a tier 1 unit to build the tier 1 structure. Also SPs and RoE have very similar roles except RoE have also got to try and keep emplacements alive.
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What I'm trying to say is that you can easily afford 2 sappers but its harder for OKW to afford 2 sturms. They are also not worth the 8 pop if you're simply using them for combat. However, sappers are quite cost efficient in that regard. So if you retreat your only sturms you may end up with no repairing, mining,sweeper squad for a while.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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How getting 2 sappers is easier then getting 2nd sturm?
420 mp is suddenly less then 320?
Its not harder for OKW to get 2nd sturm.
The first one does not disappear the moment you start building 2nd one, it'll still be there, from start.
Having a pair of sturms is CHEAPER then having a pair of sappers.
Go on.
Argue against that.
Argue against math.
The enemy rushes the USF/UKF base (assuming that the USF/UKF player can't defend his base) and destroys USF's Company Command post and then retreats. The USF player now has to spend some time to repair his CCP in order to call in units like the Stuart, 57mm AT and Pak Howitzer. Meanwhile, the Axis player has taken the advantage, because the USF player has to repair his building and then call in a unit. By the time the USF player has called in a Stuart for example, the Axis player will already have a medium tank in the field. Now, USF player has to be lucky and pray for a mistake in order to turn the game. Base raid against USF/UKF is about delaying them in my opinion.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
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