Emplacement Pack-Up Poll (mortar pit = 50MP)

Emplacement Pack-Up
The goal of pack up is to allow British players to potentially relocate parts of their assets elsewhere, or when it is no longer possible to maintain static presence on the field.

- Sappers can now pack-up emplacements for a 75% return in resources invested in them
- The duration of pack-up time is 20 seconds
- During pack-up the emplacement cannot attack, and takes increased damage (3x)
- Attack restriction penalties persist for 6 seconds if pack-up is cancelled
- The resource yield also counts the 2-mortar upgrade, but doesn’t count Advanced Emplacement Regiment upgrades (i.e., no munitions refund)

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2017, 16:45 PMDangerous-Cloth

This is a mod, it isn´t an official balance patch or mod or whatever. Take your cool aid.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2017, 15:28 PMMarioSilver

Would you oppose this if relic were to integrate this change into the live game?

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2017, 16:06 PM__deleted__

- During pack-up the emplacement cannot attack, and takes increased damage (3x)

This says it all. If you emplacement is already under fire, there´s no way to pack it up.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2017, 20:59 PMTiger Baron

It would be easier if the mortar pit was replaced with a normal mortar and the pit was made into a garrisonable emplacement...

Plus one less emplacement to balance.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2017, 23:33 PMZombiFrancis

In the spirit of testing things and trying new things, I find this to be a preferable option to an emplacement version of withdraw & refit.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2017, 15:28 PMMarioSilver

I want some opinion on the new Pack-up ability, which in practice makes emplacements %75 cheaper. Would you oppose this if relic were to integrate this change into the live game?


I personally find it crazy. There is zero risk involved, aside from the pack-up animation. Imagine if OKW could do that with their truck!

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2017, 23:49 PMmiragefla

Unfortunately we have no 3inch mortar model that can be made mobile at the moment.

Of course one could easily use other mortars.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2017, 23:49 PMmiragefla

Unfortunately we have no 3inch mortar model that can be made mobile at the moment.

Of course one could easily use other mortars.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2017, 10:08 AMMr.Smith

If you suspect an OKW zeroing artillery nuke consider packing up and selling for scraps.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2017, 23:49 PMmiragefla

Unfortunately we have no 3inch mortar model that can be made mobile at the moment.

Of course one could easily use other mortars.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2017, 04:25 AMthedarkarmadillo

I wouldnt be opposed to packing up (mostly for popcap reasons), but returned resourses is not a good direction imo. Emplacments dont bleed, so getting resourses back makes them a free grinder. Build a pit, kill a few models, pack it up, worst case you break even, best case you bled the enemy a good chunk AND dictated their build order towards a cancer fighting build which now doesnt matter because you have mobilized your army and they are stuck with their chemo.

Writing this i have convinced myself that packup at all is probably a bad thing.... It just gives too much forgiveness and allows emplacment creep...

Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2017, 06:08 AMLoopDloop

Even though it isn't quite the same thing, usf had that refit and refuel thing in mechanized commander. You do make a good point though.

I still just think that brits should get a normal damn mortar.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2017, 07:33 AMnee

UKF having mortar and a more durable trench would probably replace mortar pit without the need to make some fancy salvage ability from scratch.
The trench could just be regular Ostheer one and features higher stats, and greatly bolsters an otherwise uninspired mortar unit once garrisoned.
It also brings in tactical play whereas you have to build the trench by the time your mortars get there, and until then they act like gimped 60mms. HMGs and infantry sections themselves would also benefit from using the trench too.
For balance, trenches need sappers and take a while to build, and sandbags are removed from UKF.