1.3 GCS - Maxim Feedback

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 11:35 AMBartonPL

just because maxim isn't spammable unit now people gets crazy about it, maybe try using combined arms with like 2 maxims and penals or so? IMO maxim works great now as a support weapon, and it's great in defence thatnks to increased arc of fire, maybe stop complaining and l2p/play tutorial, take your pick

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 12:16 PMferwiner

I agree with Barton that maxim is fine performance wise. The only thing I would like to be changed is the reiforcement cost. Now that we all agree maxim stats are not OP any more, not giving it the standard reinforcement discount all the other weapon teams have is just producing another inconsistency. And patches should aim on reducing the number of them. This is not an infantry squad any more.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 14:27 PMVipper

Actually the reinforcement cost of hmgs are not really consistent since the value of the team weapon include an arbitrary value for the gun itself.

That is part of the reason why DSHK is cheaper to reinforce then maxim and HMG42 is cheaper to reinforce than HMG34.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 11:35 AMBartonPL

just because maxim isn't spammable unit now people gets crazy about it, maybe try using combined arms with like 2 maxims and penals or so? IMO maxim works great now as a support weapon, and it's great in defence thatnks to increased arc of fire, maybe stop complaining and l2p/play tutorial, take your pick

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 15:04 PMferwiner

The reinforcement cost of all weapon teams but maxim is (recruitment cost)/(squad size)/2*0.75.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 15:28 PMvasa1719

You cannot use maxim like support weapon, coz cons are bad support unit, coz have poor long range potential.
Why soviets need defend maxim if conception of soviet are attack ? I just cannot undestand it ?
All faction who have starting hmg, have best line long range infatry, that make support hmg work better.
Maxim now with this stats, are bad, setup time are long, damage and supress are bad, even if you do some burts into squads, thay just leave maxim arc wihtout any problems. Make reinforce 20 mp are to bad idea, its cost more then another HMG. Folks just run into maxim without any problem and fact that maxim are supported with cons dont change anything.
Vet1 ability are bad, i dont see any change of maxim shoot with ability or not, diffrent are not big.
Onlu good thing that maxim are 6 model, but still poor squad formation where he can be wipe like another 4 crew HMG.
BEfore patch maxim was too good, now he are to bad.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 16:53 PMBulgakov

Maybe you're just too bad and weaker Maxim has made you seen it?

But you don't want this to be true. So you claim "Maxim bad, pls buff"

But the dark reality is everyone except you and a few other maximschpammers are happy with the changes.

No more ruined tourneys with boring maximspam games. But for you it means less cheap victories.


You disagree even with pros. As if you could possibly understand the game better. You can't. Stahp your trolling and lies.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 15:30 PMVipper

Actual it is
(Recruitment cost-cost of weapon)/(number of entities*2)

HMG34
(230-30)/4*2 = 25
HMG42
(260-80)/4*2 = 22.5
DSHK
(300-120)/6*2 = 15
M2
(280-100)/4*2 = 22.5
Vickers
(280-100)/4*2 = 22.5

That is why oddly the HMG34 has one of highest reinforcement costs and Dshk the lowest.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 17:08 PMMr.Smith

MG34 crew, like all OKW team-weapons have crews that deal the full DPS of a Volks squad, as opposed to the peashooters other teamweapons get.

Jump back to quoted post5 May 2017, 10:09 AMTickTack

Feedback after lots of testing:

1. Vet1 ability is actually pretty sweet.
2. Long-range accuracy is very bad, meaning almost no long range suppression (which means you eat grenades etc all the time)
3. Two units can approach and not get suppressed (due to maxim switching targets between the two, sharing suppression between them and not being able to suppress one / both of them)
4. Burst duration is good
5. DPS is good at close range

Seems like it'd benefit from better suppression (OR dps) at long range.
Or, improve suppression of Vet1 ability.