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I just did a test, when t34 vs kt facing the front, only 2 shots penetrated out of 10. Not moving, T34 really is not a game changer, even you have more than 3. Unless you have endless fuel. The accuracy T34 has is really bad.
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I was originally all for this idea btw.
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For T-34, can also make armor for the veterans, but no one will draw another model of the tank.
T-34 with additional front armor
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I just did a test, when t34 vs kt facing the front, only 2 shots penetrated out of 10. Not moving, T34 really is not a game changer, even you have more than 3. Unless you have endless fuel. The accuracy T34 has is really bad.
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you wanna give t34 a armor buff/upgrade for the tank that costs only 80 fuel and you wanna make is as strong and p4 (135 fuel -ostheer version). yeah let's make hords of unkillable t34s, That's what this game needs right now.
I would mind this upgrade as long as price of a tank would go up up up
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80 fuel tank vs 300+ fuel tank, what did you expect lol.
How about people just calm down, get used to Soviets now requiring effort to play instead of being an a-move heaven. If you still want to have an easy time with Soviets, just maxim spam supported by one or two penals for that nifty at satchell and then get those lovely t34-85s out.
Cons need a buff if anything..
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My point is, this tank can't do shyt vs anything that is medium tank or above... And it comes at such late stage of the game. Pretty much useless...
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Not a good test, mediums almost never want to face heavies head-on unless they're swarming unsupported tank.
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Cons have never been useless in the lategame exept maybe in large teamgames...
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One can adjust both tanks and CQ units if there is need for. Losing a model the first second of engagement make the fights mostly rng.
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Yea that's why the few people who still use conscript in 1v1 try to finish the game as soon as possible, they know they have literally no chance during the late game phase with these underperforming cons
In teamgame the long range fight come very quickly, so there is no reason to use cons in teamgame, they are just vet fooder
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I got a good idea how to balance okw. simply by change the starting unit, volks start instead of storm pio, and give the difference in mp to the okw player. So cons and eng can actually have a chance to fight okw early.
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Since that time there have been some changes
-Sandbag nerf
-Mg 34 nondoctrinal
-Mg42 from hq and buffed
-Pgs buffed
-Volks buffed
-OKW full munitions and fuel income
-222 buffed
-Flamer Ht buffed
-Pios buffed
Most of these units counter conscripts and cons have remained unchanged while every change on this list makes conscripts less effective. Furthermore when the strat started cons had lower recieved accuracy amplifying how much worse they are against all of these improved units.
OP is correct in saying that Penals and Maxims were good but cons are meh. After nerfing the two units you could open the game with soviets are in a tight spot
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