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Topic opened after losing versus me yesterday in automatch . You were playing in the north spot of Langreskaya as OKW, outplayed by M3A1 during all the game and I only did 1 penal squad. What was your strategy,Wuff? Going a P II without fuel while I was rushing for a T34-76?
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But he is somewhat correct penals and m3 are somewhat overperforming against the okw at the moment. also you did not outplay him the okw's anti lv ability suck balls compared to the ostheers 222.
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But he is somewhat correct penals and m3 are somewhat overperforming against the okw at the moment. also you did not outplay him the okw's anti lv ability suck balls compared to the ostheers 222.
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It would be understandable if you said that old okw, before shreck changes, were having problem with m3s and other early LVs. But now that on the top of cheap, cloakable, T0 AT gun they also have faust on mainline infantry while keeping the ability to field shreck squads, I must say your point is hard to understand.
Ostheer can only dream about such early AT capabilities while fighting desperately to gather fuel for T2.
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Faust requires a truck down, and the RAK is very unreliable.
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One truck down is hardly a problem. Much earlier than getting T1 + BP1 + T2. And raketen is more than enough till you acheive this. Shot from cloak and a little bit of sturmpio followup and the m3 is down. The only really unreliable thing about the raketen is how long it aims, but this is not much of a problem when you fire from cloaked position so your opponent doensn't know where your cone of fire is.
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One truck down is hardly a problem. Much earlier than getting T1 + BP1 + T2. And raketen is more than enough till you acheive this. Shot from cloak and a little bit of sturmpio followup and the m3 is down. The only really unreliable thing about the raketen is how long it aims, but this is not much of a problem when you fire from cloaked position so your opponent doensn't know where your cone of fire is.
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A cloaked RAK is very slow to move around, a well micro'd M3 will hit different flanks and not stay still.
Unless you've played a lot of 1v1 OKW this patch theory craft isn't very useful.
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Well, I might have not played okw 1v1s this patch, as I play much less now than before but I remember playing 1v1s with early LVs both as and against okw before they got all the early game buffs like mg, faust, raketen cone angle increase and so on. It was hard with raketens only back then but perfectly doable. Some players even decided their commander just to get a snare... Now with all the goodies there shouldn't be a single reason to complain.
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It would be understandable if you said that old okw, before shreck changes, were having problem with m3s and other early LVs. But now that on the top of cheap, cloakable, T0 AT gun they also have faust on mainline infantry while keeping the ability to field shreck squads, I must say your point is hard to understand.
Ostheer can only dream about such early AT capabilities while fighting desperately to gather fuel for T2.
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I think the OKW win rate speaks for itself, that the faction is not in the best state.
However this thread was about penals, not the M3.
Early puchpen is NOT cheap early it translates into 1 less squad in the field.
for faust you need the truck which cost 300 mp. which once again translates into 1 single squad. less
on top of that penals + m3 have complete superiority over you against volks if the situation is equal.
You dont understand the argument because you obviously suck at math.
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I think the OKW win rate speaks for itself, that the faction is not in the best state.
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The faction is in such position becouse it lacks classic mid game AT. At some point it simply is not enough to spam raketens and this is much before panther comes on to the field. Shreck blobs were used to fill that gap before, now people cant use them and didn't learn yet to start to use forgotten okw units that were redeemed useless by shrecks before such as puma, JP4 and something all okw players seem to forget about - the mine.
But yeah, this, the weakness of okw faction, has nothing to do with penals. Just as it has nothing to do with m3s.
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And what's about it? It's 0.567 in 1*1 with average 0.576.
http://coh2chart.com/
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all this because paul kicked your ass last night
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It is lower than all allied factions.
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This has nothing to do with Paula.
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This has nothing to do with Paula.
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