the t34/85 is a bit too cheap since the last patched buffed the mg on the t34/85.
I wouldn't say it's broken, but it should be made a bit more expensive, something like 385mp 135fuel.
t34/85 is a bit too cheap
17 Jul 2016, 00:08 AM
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17 Jul 2016, 00:42 AM
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the t34/85 is a bit too cheap since the last patched buffed the mg on the t34/85.
I wouldn't say it's broken, but it should be made a bit more expensive, something like 385mp 135fuel.
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17 Jul 2016, 02:03 AM
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Ssssshhhhhh mod close quick no one shall know my secret strat make it pass under the radar ssssshhhhh
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17 Jul 2016, 03:16 AM
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Do we have a guide with up-to-date unit costs around here somewhere? I feel like the rather 'meh' Panzer IV is amusingly close in cost to the beast that is T34/85s.
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17 Jul 2016, 03:23 AM
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Do we have a guide with up-to-date unit costs around here somewhere? I feel like the rather 'meh' Panzer IV is amusingly close in cost to the beast that is T34/85s.
the guide here at coh2.org is current AFAIK.
17 Jul 2016, 03:55 AM
#6
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Errr....I don't know about the t34/85 too much considering it's a doctrine unit (in three doctrines). I can do very well without it with the new su85 and t34/76 support.
I only see this thread becoming about the panzer 4 and the t34/85 which I think both are fine (panzer 4 can use a fuel decrease through).
My opinion on the price increase for the t34/85 seems stupid just because of a mg buff.
If you really want to increase the price I would increase the price to 400mp and 140 fuel (same price as it was in the advance warfare commander befor the revamp) but slightly buff its pen or armor (more so its pen).
I don't know what would be appropriate but to me this isnt.
Edit, I personally would prefer a price hike for a better performing vehicle than just a small nerf.
I only see this thread becoming about the panzer 4 and the t34/85 which I think both are fine (panzer 4 can use a fuel decrease through).
My opinion on the price increase for the t34/85 seems stupid just because of a mg buff.
If you really want to increase the price I would increase the price to 400mp and 140 fuel (same price as it was in the advance warfare commander befor the revamp) but slightly buff its pen or armor (more so its pen).
I don't know what would be appropriate but to me this isnt.
Edit, I personally would prefer a price hike for a better performing vehicle than just a small nerf.
17 Jul 2016, 04:16 AM
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Do we have a guide with up-to-date unit costs around here somewhere? I feel like the rather 'meh' Panzer IV is amusingly close in cost to the beast that is T34/85s.
85s are 40 mp and 5 fuel more
yet twice better than pansy IV
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17 Jul 2016, 05:48 AM
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Just revert the buff on the MGs for the T34/85 it wasnt meant to get buffed in the first place
Relic are just doing a shitty job with this patch like they did with everything else in it
Relic are just doing a shitty job with this patch like they did with everything else in it
17 Jul 2016, 06:18 AM
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Someone forgot, that it is doctrinal tank... And comes in very late T4 soviet. For example, in same late Ost getting Panthers, which are 10 times better.
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17 Jul 2016, 06:36 AM
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Price is fine. I think tanks like the Ostheer Panzer IV are just overpriced.
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17 Jul 2016, 07:25 AM
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Someone forgot, that it is doctrinal tank... And comes in very late T4 soviet. For example, in same late Ost getting Panthers, which are 10 times better.
#T-34-85instock!
I said a higher price, not a nerf.
being doctrinal and late game doesn't mean it can be under priced.
17 Jul 2016, 07:37 AM
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Posts: 258
P4 has almost same price but you dont count that it comes out much earlier because its in T3
17 Jul 2016, 09:19 AM
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I said a higher price, not a nerf.
being doctrinal and late game doesn't mean it can be under priced.
Higer price = nerf. Not directly, but still you make it weaker.
And being doctrinal and coming very late actually means that it can be underpriced. So, everything is fine.
P.S. T-34-85 is awesome tank, which costs 130 fuel, and KV-1 is piece of slow trash which costs 145 fuel. If something is wrong in soviet tank prices - it is that thing.
17 Jul 2016, 09:32 AM
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Posts: 148
they're commander's unit , they're not call-in you need to build yourself, that's mean 3 building needed, same as E8 sherman
Just reduce cost of pz4 (ost)
*Sorry for my bad english
Just reduce cost of pz4 (ost)
*Sorry for my bad english
17 Jul 2016, 11:26 AM
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the t34/85 is a bit too cheap since the last patched buffed the mg on the t34/85.
I wouldn't say it's broken, but it should be made a bit more expensive, something like 385mp 135fuel.
Is in that already the case?
I haven't played single T-34-85 call in commander like in ages but I vaguely remember its price being 140 ish fuel for a single one.
The reason double call in is cheaper is because you get a discount when you buy two. This applies to everything, even shreks. At least that's what Relic have said some time ago.
17 Jul 2016, 11:29 AM
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Is in that already the case?
I haven't played single T-34-85 call in commander like in ages but I vaguely remember its price being 140 ish fuel for a single one.
The reason double call in is cheaper is because you get a discount when you buy two. This applies to everything, even shreks. At least that's what Relic have said some time ago.
The call-ins don't exist any longer for 34/85, they are T4 unit now and the price was lowered to not make it too steep or arrive too late compared to old call-in.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
17 Jul 2016, 12:06 PM
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well i think the price in fuel is fine maybe some more mp but don't compare it to ost p4 dat shit is largely overpriced compare it to okw p4 it has less armor and no mg on top but more hp and pen i think but is doc
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17 Jul 2016, 12:20 PM
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Is in that already the case?
I haven't played single T-34-85 call in commander like in ages but I vaguely remember its price being 140 ish fuel for a single one.
The reason double call in is cheaper is because you get a discount when you buy two. This applies to everything, even shreks. At least that's what Relic have said some time ago.
Do you play the game? 85s are 130 fuel. And you get only one of them
17 Jul 2016, 12:24 PM
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Just revert the buff on the MGs for the T34/85 it wasnt meant to get buffed in the first place
Relic are just doing a shitty job with this patch like they did with everything else in it
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17 Jul 2016, 13:05 PM
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The revert on mg buff for 85s is the only option that makes any sense. On the other hand, the unit was never used before the buff so maybe there is a need for other small buff instead. Changing price is really a bad idea, the vehicle is already paced really late. It's relatively cheap becouse it is only usefull in numbers, just becouse once it arrives its window of opportunity is already closed.
On contrary, the P4 is build usually only one to take advantage of its huge window of opportunity (against anybody but brits), thanks to relatively low tech cost that makes up for high unit cost. Then the counters arrive and you are better of with P4 and a stug than 2 P4s.
That's just how the these units are designed and comparing only the pricing of these two is a major mistake.
On contrary, the P4 is build usually only one to take advantage of its huge window of opportunity (against anybody but brits), thanks to relatively low tech cost that makes up for high unit cost. Then the counters arrive and you are better of with P4 and a stug than 2 P4s.
That's just how the these units are designed and comparing only the pricing of these two is a major mistake.
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