USF didn't need a mortar.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 02:35 AMArclyte

I guess fighting the copy/pasted version of the wehr mortar suddenly makes the unit "OP".

why am I not surprised

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 06:29 AMBudwise

LOL, just give them everything at T0. Rifles with Zookas, Nades, AT Nades, Smoke, BAR, and LMG, with a mortar now in case you're so retarded you can't flank an MG with the above. Sounds good!

Imagine if Volks got all that LOL, people would riot in the streets.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 08:05 AMSupremeStefan

haha zooks and nades with ambulance are soo stronk in early game relic pls delete this mortar cuz rifle spam should be only viable early strategy. who cares that okw get mg, stg packege, panzerfaust and panzershrek is still here and they even add LeFH to okw. let's be serious this mortar need to be like soviet or wermaht mortar and thats it.. BUT bu.t granade smoke !! Relic nerf all granades range when u are suppress so free smoke now from mortar isnt crime i guess

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 02:35 AMArclyte

I guess fighting the copy/pasted version of the wehr mortar suddenly makes the unit "OP".

why am I not surprised

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 17:44 PMspectre645

Why bitch about balance now when there was a balance test mod to discuss this?

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 13:24 PMSolidSteel

copy pasted ? god the bias can make people blind lol.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 18:34 PMDaciaJC

For one thing, the current USF mortar is apparently not the same as the 60mm mortar in the balance mod - it's quite a bit better.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 18:39 PMspectre645

wasn't this acknowledged as a stats bug? and wasn't that alleviated in the J23 patch?

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 18:39 PMspectre645

wasn't this acknowledged as a stats bug? and wasn't that alleviated in the J23 patch?

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 23:29 PMnee

I would have just made it a 0CP call-in for a number of USF commanders.

Or even made it a Fighting Position upgrade; upgrade it to mortar position, and any unit you put in will fire mortars.

Jump back to quoted post24 Jun 2016, 17:01 PMGenObi

I concur, a smaller 60 mm moarter would be fine or some nerfs to damage.

Iam gonna be honest, this is text book example of bad design. Units like the WC50 and Combat Engineers shouldnt be in a doc but come in as standard units in tier 0.

For Wc 51 unit give them rangers in that doc. For the combat engiees76 mm sherman.

Your units choices from the start would be Rears Comb Engiees, Rifles and Truck. Think of the openings! Need close quarter combat with flamer get a engiee, have a open area ? Get a truck. The flexibility that is suppose to be there would be represented by the unit choices to tackle different scenarios.

Combat engiees and trucks wouldnt change the dynamic of the match much other then adding options then just rifles.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2016, 09:49 AMmedhood

Rear Echelons Role would quickly lose their role as any role they fulfilled is quickly replaced by units better at it, Assault Engineers and Riflemen

But I do personally like the sound of this would have been better if USF was designed like this

For the Mechanized Doc I think Cavalry Riflemen replacing Assault Engineers would also be better

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2016, 18:35 PMMettiu

Maybe you can first check facts. It's lot better then ost counterpart. I played US few times and it is OP as hell. After few games I stopped playing US. That much boring is how much OP that unit is.