M1931 B-4 Howitzer - Let's do something about it!

Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2016, 20:19 PMMATRAKA14

This thing shoots outside his aim reticle that's the problem!

Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2016, 07:01 AMElSlayer

I like how they removed precision shot from all units, including B4, and then added range to Sturmtiger so it could fire from fog of war.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2016, 19:04 PMPablonano

It was the perfect counterbattery

Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2016, 07:23 AMstrafniki

+ THROUGH buildings

rip in piece precision strike. it was the best thing ever in coh2 history

Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2016, 07:49 AMOZtheWiZARD

One is an ability that costs you munnition, second was free Vet1 ability one shooting heavy tanks.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2016, 07:49 AMOZtheWiZARD

One is an ability that costs you munnition, second was free Vet1 ability one shooting heavy tanks.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2016, 08:03 AMMissCommissar

Let's do some math:

1. M1931 B-4 itself = 600 MP. You may lose it by 1 offmap strike in any moment.

2. Vet 1 (since accuracy is very random) - takes from 1 to 4 mins to get. When you lose your howitzer crew - nobody will give vet back.

3. PS ability = 90 ammo. It wasn't free, actually. It costed 40 for mortars, 60 for ML-20 and 90 for B-4. I think, it would be fair to rise price to 120-140, cos... it's really powerful.

4. 10 popcap, pls. And seriously injured MP income.

1+2+3+4 = a lot of resourses to spend and risk with, actually. For less powerful than Dive bomb ability.

Now Dive bomb:

1. No MP spendings.

2. No Popcap spendings.

3. Don't need to "farm" EXP for unit vet, for to use it.

1+2+3 = no real risks for your resourses.

4. It costs more ammo, but it's reasonable - it's more powerful and not depened on very vunerable unit.

As we can see - Dive bomb is actually CHEAPER, than B-4 PS ability. And less risky.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2016, 08:49 AMAustralian Magic

There were plenty of ideas hwo to rework B4.

Sad thing is that all of them would make B4 somehow useful since now, it's a huge RNG machine, which often makes you lose a game, not a win.

Anything will work...

@UP without warning? Well, I guess that huge loud boom 5sec before hit WAS a warning, not to mention recon plane or anything what's showing that counter attack has been picked, so you have knowleadge that B4 may start shooting.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2016, 09:48 AMOZtheWiZARD

Still 9 out of 10 times you would have no idea where it would hit. I know a lot of theories were crafted to justify this argument but that doesn't somehow make it fair and I say this as someone who used it a lot with great success, especially in team games.