Sim City

Jump back to quoted post29 Feb 2016, 19:31 PMgeneral_gawain

While mortar pit is an unique unit that is hard to balance because there is no similar unit on axis side, Bofors is a pretty straight mirror of Schwerer HQ. Both units lock down an area for infantry and light vehicles completely, in case of Schwerer some medium USF vehicles are affected too. So while having different stats and abilities (and you could discuss a lot about that) they fulfill the same role of area denial while both are not that easy to kill when supported correctly. Both are repeatetly used to lockdown important VPs or fuel points. Do be fair: If you want to address one you have to address both.

You can get your Bofors up earlier but this comes at a big disadvantage: While Schwerer HQ is your tech requirement for medium and heavy tanks, the bofors delays your tech to tanks. Use that to your advantage. Brits really need their tanks to fight enemy armor, inspite of having the best AT-Gun around. Their problem is that their infantry can't rely on a decent handheld AT-weapon like Shrek (Piat, cough...) or any kind of vehicle snare to slow axis armor down in front off 6pdr. You really can put pressure on a brit with Bofors by going for a fast tank tech.

So I still think, when something has to be changed, it is the mortar pit.

If i wanted that kind of gameplay, I'd go play angry birds.

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 01:16 AMOnimusha

The problem is: there is not a disadvantage. Bofors cost only 30 fuel. You can spam 3 bofors without delay so much your tanks, need only one or two at guns near your simcity and tanks are stopped. Now there is a counter battery for indirect fire. So counter sim city is too long, and we must consider that probably while we are trying to take down bofors (covered by mortars) , fuel or vp are holded by them. So not a big problem for brits late game. Okw flak cost 120,a lot risky build that on aggressive position (the only problem is that everyone that lose tier 3 can go for kt anyway) and comes later. And it's only one. It seems not a big problem. Bofors spam is cheaper. 3 bofors 90 fuel + bofors fuel tech? Crazy. You lose one bofors? Np , build another one. There is no punishing for bofors spammers.

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 10:02 AMKatitof

105 fuel doesn't delay tanks.
Remember this life lesson kids

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 16:35 PMImagelessbean

I am also concerned about Brit SimCity. I find more and more I have to pick Jaeger armor against Brits to ensure I can deal with late game armor since mid game is basically a wash once the first mortar pit goes down. With 50 munition repair abilities and brace the Wehr struggles to deal damage fast enough to dislodge Brits. This does not mean they are balanced, it just means that gameplay is extremely static and boring.

Against OKW it feels a little more even, but even so having to get ISG's every game against Brits gets old fast.

The decision to build a commander around SimCity style gameplay only confirmed to me Relic is not serious about changing the nature of emplacements in the game.

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 17:13 PMMoerserKarL

you guys haven't seen Hans stream yesterday, with his bofors spam

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 10:02 AMKatitof

105 fuel doesn't delay tanks.
Remember this life lesson kids

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 16:35 PMImagelessbean

I am also concerned about Brit SimCity. I find more and more I have to pick Jaeger armor against Brits to ensure I can deal with late game armor since mid game is basically a wash once the first mortar pit goes down. With 50 munition repair abilities and brace the Wehr struggles to deal damage fast enough to dislodge Brits. This does not mean they are balanced, it just means that gameplay is extremely static and boring.

Against OKW it feels a little more even, but even so having to get ISG's every game against Brits gets old fast.

The decision to build a commander around SimCity style gameplay only confirmed to me Relic is not serious about changing the nature of emplacements in the game.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 04:22 AMCaptain QQ

Thing is, if they are building 2-3 mortars they are SERIOUSLY lacking in map presence.

Why aren't you just capping the rest of the map and not putting your crew weapons inside the mortar range unless you have forced it to brace?

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 19:24 PMIntelligence209

Thisssss rightttt hereeee..

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 12:50 PMOnimusha

"...so much" it's obvious that delay tanks, but with 3 bofors it supposed that you are holding the map. 1vs1 it's an heavy delay , but 2v2 4v4 i think bofors are too stronk for their cost.

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 22:30 PMGundamZphyr7

It's far too late to redesign UKF so get used to putting up with emplacements since the faction's early and mid-game were essentially gutted to make room for them.

Jump back to quoted post2 Mar 2016, 01:58 AMMarkedRaptor

I don't get it, Axis is complaining that brit simcity makes the game boring, that they have to dedicate their time to dislodge them at all costs.

I mean, that's how it's been with fucking allies against OKW since fucking release. With MG's, AT guns, Mortars reinforcing from a static position(Talking OKW with Ostheer). Don't forget the Flak HQ shooting down planes and locking down territory. With the only artillery units to dislodge it for USF and UKF being commanders(yay pay to not deal with that crap). All the while Wermacht armies have units in their structures they can build to dislodge UKF.

UKF has a ridiculously weak early game, so they turtle an area and you bombard the crap out of them and take the map. OKW has a ridiculously good early game that they can then place trucks on the front lines to provide further pressure. If you are going to complain about simcity, complain about ALL SIMCITY'S.

Jump back to quoted post2 Mar 2016, 01:58 AMMarkedRaptor

If you are going to complain about simcity, complain about ALL SIMCITY'S.

Jump back to quoted post2 Mar 2016, 02:16 AMIntelligence209

OKW sim city points