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So you saw that I liked the idea of a more diverse Soviets...
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Just give the long-range role to Penals so they have a more distinctly than being better Conscripts with a lack of utility.
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But then who gets the awesome SVT-40? Only the Assault Guards would have it, and they'd only have 2. I'd miss my PUP PUP PUP shooties
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Then let Penal SVT be good at range just like in my mod. Who cares about the aesthetic when semi-auto G43s or M1 Garands can outshoot the majority of Soviet small-arm bolt-actions at range
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But that goes against the (admittedly wonky and inconsistent) design goals of the Bolt-Actions being better at long range and Semi-Autos being better at mid range. Actually, I think the SVT is the only example of this dynamic working as intended, since Riflemen have no bolt-action counterpart within their own army, and G43's are a munitions upgrade.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Weapon teams that can defend themselves effectively and beefy tanks being resistant to disables are bad ideas. The idea of trading vet for promotions is an interesting one though.
Overall though, Soviets aren't bad and the game is getting close to acceptable balance. The only things Soviets really need are effective penals and something with T4 to make the Soviets less doctrine reliant. A complete overhaul at this point though just isn't really an option.
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There is absolutely nothing that would prevent SVTs profile being mirrored to garand.
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Yeah, they just spammers. Imagine for a moment, thet Ostroopen is main-line german infantry and grens/pz.grens available only in doc, and you main stock tank is T4 cheap Pz.III from 1942.
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Non doc flame rifles with 1 extra garand for 270 mp? Shit idea, im sorry.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Permanently BannedConsidering penals get 60% better accuracy with vet, having oorah at vet 2 flamers, 6 men. And being better than a base rifle squad with garand profile. That sounds OP as fuck. Weaker AT support is a myth. Zis and su76s are not bad just because they aren't panthers.
With no nades, no smoke, no AT capabilities, incomparably weaker tank support, weaker AT support, arriving on field much later and being much more squishy due to vet3 being nothing extraordinary defensively.
Different armies, different units.
What works with one, doesn't automatically mean it will work exactly the same way in another.
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Weapon teams that can defend themselves effectively and beefy tanks being resistant to disables are bad ideas. The idea of trading vet for promotions is an interesting one though.
Overall though, Soviets aren't bad and the game is getting close to acceptable balance. The only things Soviets really need are effective penals and something with T4 to make the Soviets less doctrine reliant. A complete overhaul at this point though just isn't really an option.
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Considering penals get 60% better accuracy with vet, having oorah at vet 2 flamers, 6 men. And being better than a base rifle squad with garand profile. That sounds OP as fuck. Weaker AT support is a myth. Zis and su76s are not bad just because they aren't panthers.
And if penals are squishy, then I guess most german inf is squishy too. 6 man rifles with flamethrower non doc is a terrible idea. Open ur eyes.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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And how OP sounds 6 men squad with grenadier(which is more then con DPS) DPS with ability to buy weapons for close/mid range and pretty good accuracy vet on axis side with allied weapons being designed to fight 4-5 men squads?
Yet pfussiliers aren't OP.
Plus, flamer could be replaced with DP or PTRS, hardly OP this way.
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Non doc flame rifles with 1 extra garand for 270 mp? Shit idea, im sorry.
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Penals are not great but they are also far away from being useless...
Considering penals get 60% better accuracy with vet, having oorah at vet 2 flamers, 6 men. And being better than a base rifle squad with garand profile. That sounds OP as fuck.
I mean if you think panzerfussiliers are OP, got no clue why you don't see that non doc 6 man flame rifle squad with oorah would be OP just because they don't have frags or smoke or elite infantry durability liek riflemen.
Theres really nothing more I can point out.
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