Time for Statistics

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2015, 03:14 AMDullahan

Yes, it's actually pretty easy to follow if you're not retarded, asshole.

Sentence 1:
"If 1000 games are played with axis and 500 are played with allies in the top 150 players, that means that axis played 500 games against players who are outside that skill bracket."

1000-500 = 500. pretty easy to understand. I kept it extremely simple and clarified in detail in another post.
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Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2015, 14:36 PMBurts

Meanwhile, brits have 30% winrate in 1v1s, 20% winrate in 2v2s, and 40% in 4v4s

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2015, 14:36 PMBurts

Axis fanboy logic


4V4 winrate - complete 50/50 split
1v1 winrate -allied winrate 70%, axis winrate 55-60%

NERF ALLIES NOAWWW!!!

4V4 Winrate - 80/20 in favor of axis
1v1 winrate, 70% axis winrate, 50% allied winrate

It's fine guys, L2P.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2015, 15:21 PMcr4wler

before the patch it was completely the other way around. fanboys of either side don't want balance. question is, do YOU want balance? if so, why didnt you complain about allies being too strong last patch?

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2015, 15:22 PMAustralian Magic

Because they werent...

It was OKW which was UP. Now it's OP.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2015, 14:02 PMGrumpy

Your numbers are simply wrong. There are still more games played by the top 150 as allies than as axis. You're disregarding the stats because they show that the faction you like is really broken.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2015, 23:53 PMOmega_Warrior

Just reposting some relevant stuff brad posted in the shoutbox

"were putting all infantry to 1 pop then adding the difference into the squad pop so the pop values will go to what they were prepatch"

"looking at the metrics most of the issues we are seeing are in the form of heavy vehicles in the late game not the early game."

Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2015, 02:34 AMBeefSurge

People wanted OKW resource income removed and teching changed. But most people also wanted a Volks redesign, side upgrades for nades and AA etc, and changes to the army that promote quality over quantity and aggressive combined arms.

IMO most OKW units should have been reworked:

ISGs sole purpose now is countering emplacement and other light arty. But flame nades, Stuka, and fast attacks already do this. ISGs are low risk high reward unit that encourages defensive play.

IR Halftrack is cool but kind of also a joke unit.

Flak track is nice but super niche and overlaps with Luches, and also MG34. Munitions Halftrack or Vampyr Halftrack would have been better.

PzIV shouldn't be in same building as Panther and JP4. It should be anti-infantry tank now.

Obers lmg should be pricier, gas grenade is just stupid. Sprint or zeal or Faust would be better. Vet 4 suppression= ability.

It goes on. This "redesign" is a joke.

Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2015, 02:30 AMDullahan

I'm using made up numbers to explain the logic. The numbers of games varies wildly day to day due to the small sample size. December 6th OKW played 200 games and Brits only played 30 for example. 30 games isn't even enough to have a decent statistical representation of british players in the top 150.

I also fucking hate the new OKW design and have been quite vocal about that, so don't accuse me of bias. I play everything pretty equally. I said the exact same thing when allies Op was all the rage.

Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2015, 02:34 AMBeefSurge

People wanted OKW resource income removed and teching changed. But most people also wanted a Volks redesign, side upgrades for nades and AA etc, and changes to the army that promote quality over quantity and aggressive combined arms.

IMO most OKW units should have been reworked:

ISGs sole purpose now is countering emplacement and other light arty. But flame nades, Stuka, and fast attacks already do this. ISGs are low risk high reward unit that encourages defensive play.

IR Halftrack is cool but kind of also a joke unit.

Flak track is nice but super niche and overlaps with Luches, and also MG34. Munitions Halftrack or Vampyr Halftrack would have been better.

PzIV shouldn't be in same building as Panther and JP4. It should be anti-infantry tank now.

Obers lmg should be pricier, gas grenade is just stupid. Sprint or zeal or Faust would be better. Vet 4 suppression= ability.

It goes on. This "redesign" is a joke.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2015, 14:36 PMBurts

Axis fanboy logic


4V4 winrate - complete 50/50 split
1v1 winrate -allied winrate 70%, axis winrate 55-60%

NERF ALLIES NOAWWW!!!

4V4 Winrate - 80/20 in favor of axis
1v1 winrate, 70% axis winrate, 50% allied winrate

It's fine guys, L2P.


Meanwhile, brits have 30% winrate in 1v1s, 20% winrate in 2v2s, and 40% in 4v4s

Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2015, 02:55 AMEtherealDragon

Interesting... although you have to wonder what conclusion he draws from late game heavies. You would assume it would be pricing related as unit performance wasn't an issue prepatch.

Hope this means pop-up will be notified soon

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2015, 15:22 PMAustralian Magic

Because they werent...

Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2015, 08:00 AMJohnnyB

This is rubbish. Statistics said otherwise.