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A move > ambushed Goliath

4 Dec 2015, 21:33 PM
#41
avatar of Arclyte

Posts: 692

the same players who were (rightfully) complaining of demo charge cheese are now defending the goliath, which is an invisible mobile demo charge that spots for itself

what a joke
4 Dec 2015, 22:33 PM
#42
avatar of Flying Dustbin

Posts: 270 | Subs: 1

Why can't the Goliath be abandoned like other vehicles can?? #balance
4 Dec 2015, 22:38 PM
#43
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2

If the goliath dies, it applies self_destruct_goliath_mp.txt doing 200damage.

Problem is, when you activate the ability it applies the same item one for the ability and one more time for the death of the unit. Intended or not ?



I've talked to the Designer and he's says its working as Intended. (supposed to do 400 damage) Thanks


:Bradlied: :P
4 Dec 2015, 22:41 PM
#44
avatar of WhySooSerious

Posts: 1248



0 CP? :D :D

DAMN RELIC REALLY?!


Demo is 0 cp MingLee
4 Dec 2015, 22:44 PM
#46
avatar of WhySooSerious

Posts: 1248


+
On topic, Goliath is too powerful, it can withstand one shot from su76 and it's kinda overpowered. Cloaking is too powerful too, cus if u make swippers u don't have enough time to react and it can wipe your squad.


Zooks do more damage than SU-76 :foreveralone: Goliath gets killed by Zooks
4 Dec 2015, 22:47 PM
#47
avatar of WhySooSerious

Posts: 1248

jump backJump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 19:22 PMRollo


at least my countrymen don't crap in streets or subway bins :luvCarrot:

Goliath is OP deal with it, also learn some manners noob.


if only it was also OP in coh1 :foreveralone:
4 Dec 2015, 22:48 PM
#48
avatar of WhySooSerious

Posts: 1248

jump backJump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 19:57 PMSwift
Invissed two posts, keep it clean.


Nice profile pic :snfPeter:
4 Dec 2015, 22:52 PM
#49
avatar of Switzerland
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Posts: 545

So if Goliath's self spot then Demos should have a sight radius in the fog of war and be detonation at all times in the fog of war. Relics, we break our own fancy mechanics we made videos about at launch (true sight) because we want to.

Sorry but this is bull, abandoned vehicles have no crew and can't see, anything without a crew cannot see. If you drive your Goliath out of sight range it should stop and go Camouflaged till you can see it. Otherwise we are breaking game principles for now.
4 Dec 2015, 23:03 PM
#50
avatar of SupremeStefan

Posts: 1220

why they dont goliat buildable by enginers with some radius ? I mean for example 20 meters from place where enginers put it :loco:
4 Dec 2015, 23:52 PM
#51
avatar of Blackart

Posts: 344

I think it should be invisible if not moving and only spoted by sweeper. Bug?
nee
5 Dec 2015, 00:07 AM
#52
avatar of nee

Posts: 1216

I suppose the solution is to not engage a blob with just one Goliath but perhaps alongside other OKW units?
5 Dec 2015, 00:30 AM
#53
avatar of Blackart

Posts: 344

Just checked vCoH and it was the same, it could be spoted by infantry so I think it's not a bug.
5 Dec 2015, 01:09 AM
#54
avatar of Swift

Posts: 2723 | Subs: 1



Nice profile pic :snfPeter:

Thank you.

Now learn how to multi-quote.
5 Dec 2015, 01:53 AM
#55
avatar of Switzerland
Donator 33

Posts: 545

Breaking a mechanic in the game, bad commander or not, nope. Im loving them though, scout like a monster. Retreat path bombs all day :). Sweep that.
5 Dec 2015, 08:55 AM
#56
avatar of Kreatiir

Posts: 2819



Demo is 0 cp MingLee


Yes these two are completely the same :)!!
6 Dec 2015, 04:06 AM
#57
avatar of Virtual Boar

Posts: 196

Make the goliath slower and it will balance it.

passive cloak is ok-ish, what i'm not ok with is the speed of that devil combined with the passive cloak, either have one trait or the other, not both.

Either current speed plus active cloak (like USSR camouflage for Zis gun) or passive cloak but slower speed.
9 Dec 2015, 08:26 AM
#58
avatar of A big guy 4u

Posts: 168

The Goliath is rubbish.

Never mind historical facts, let's look at it from a balance perspective.

It's a self-spotting, self-moving unit that costs only 100 munitions and NO population, which is the size of a satchel charge, but has enough firepower to put a walking stuka rocket barrage to shame.


It should not be self spotting, it's a machine, how does it see? does it have an onboard camera? Are there shrunken suicide bombers in them?

Also, camo, COME ON. Place it behind a crate and watch 3 rifle squads get wiped by its absurd payload. Ridiculous.




9 Dec 2015, 10:47 AM
#59
avatar of Highfiveeeee

Posts: 1740

Why can't the Goliath be abandoned like other vehicles can?? #balance


Underrated post
9 Dec 2015, 10:56 AM
#60
avatar of Carlos Danger

Posts: 362

I said previously that I don't like demo-charges because I don't like invisible squad-wiping weapons, so I guess I'm obligated to say the same thing about the Goliath.

Still, also have to point out that the Goliath is locked behind a fairly mediocre doctrine, as opposed to being non-doctrinal. Honestly, once the new commander gets locked behind a paywall, I don't think you're going to see many Goliaths around.
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