Balance Preview Patchnotes

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 18:55 PM__deleted__

Also will you ever look at soveit light at gun in urban defence dotrine as well as HQ cost and tank spoting , when you are revamping commaders ?

And will you look at bad spot penals

Could use some love.

And soveit cover to cover sniper camo that is nonexisten ?

Yeah soviet sniper could use a little love somewhere.

And can you give g43 to stormtroopens ?

This would be nice in Elite troops(although people are still going to cry over loss of pay to vet).

Or decrease hetzer vet requirements ?

A lot of OKW units need a decrease in Vet requirements.

And give a look to liehtenaunt tier after all these changes go live ?

And buff AC to puma level becouse now british mid game is almost nonexistent due no counter to light vehicle except at gun. They also does not have AT nade. (with cost increase of course)

Could they include AT Nade from the AT Boys squad with Grenade upgrade package (and the AT Boys can spawn with it unlocked for free)? Right now there is no point in getting that grenade upgrade as getting 5th man and weapon racks is much better. This would allow more opening plays as usually only 2 of 3 infantry upgrades is worth delaying tanks for and this would allow for more options.

Thx for replay Brad , youre really great (today i was looking at begnining of year and we had call in meta nad shreckvols+ ober blobs into KT and PTRS spammers , game evolved really greatly from that THX for all).

Thanks a lot for your hard work Brad!

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 20:06 PMMoerserKarL

Good changes but can someone explain me the penetration nerf for the luchs?

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 20:06 PMMoerserKarL

Good changes but can someone explain me the penetration nerf for the luchs?

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 20:29 PM5trategos

I like this iterative balancing process but I feel like more effort should be invested into integrating these mods into a parallel form of automatch with rewards and/or incentives for participation.

Most people here don't play the mods (myself included), because of how cumbersome it is, they just react to the few lines of pasted patch notes and theorycraft. And playing against the CPU hardly counts. There's huge potential here to accelerate and strengthen the balancing of the game but it's largely forfeited because it's not fully integrated.

We could easily end up with a broken meta two weeks into the next patch because not enough people tested it. And with the holidays coming up, I wouldn't expect a hotfix either.

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 20:51 PMAustralian Magic

1. What about price for LMG43 with 100% ammo income?
2. How to justify Panther's timing? For OST (without T3 building) it is 195Fuel (with T3 270F). For OKW it is 150F with Med HQ and 175F with Mech HQ. It's quite cheaper than OST, espeicially with Med HQ. With all trucks (Med HQ->Mech HQ-> Schwerer HQ) it is 215fuel. For Ostheer it is 270 Fuel.

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 18:55 PMSvalbard SD

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Then you point out squad humping - not squad humping and gun calibre/unit eliteness/size/etc in an effort to diminish the person's views by appearing to imply they don't understand that guns that big should evaporate units - while responding to what you perceive as wrong understanding of the core reason of the issue. Like I highlighted in my previous post.

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 18:55 PMSvalbard SD

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I don't know if you tend to forget your own posts but:
I said don't quoate him, I never said that one should ignore him. There is a difference between not quoting and ignorning.

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 18:55 PMSvalbard SD

You keep saying you didn't mean what I've been replying to, but all I've been replying to has been derived from the way you responded to the person in question. And not just the essence but the insulting and ironic reference to their thoughts. If that was unintended fine, but that doesn't make the post in question sound any better.

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 20:57 PMRollo

I don't think Ost panther is a good comparison, maybe USF E8 is a better one and they seem to come out at similar times to me depending on what light vehicles each player purchases.

Considering that the jagdpanzer could be fielded before a sherman last patch I don't think a panther being affordable when it is will make that much difference. (most people will just continue to build PIV's)

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 18:32 PMbC_

December Balance Preview Notes

Mod available @ http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=557952243

OKW starting resource increased from 0 to 10
Battlegroup HQ reduced from 30 fuel to 25
Mecahnized Regiment HQ increased from 40 to 50 fuel
Schwerer Panzer HQ cost increased 100 fuel to 105 fuel
Volks regular grenade removed again
Luch Penetration reduced from 25 to 20
Infantry section damage reverted back from 14 to 16
Infantry section targets reverted back from 0.9 to 0.8
Infantry section veterancy 2 recieved accuracy modifer increased from 0.66 to 0.76
Bolster Infantry cost increased from 100/25 to 150/35
German Supply Drop zone plane comes in from longest path so that you can shoot down the plane now.

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 21:15 PMAustralian Magic

To unlock E8 you need to pay 155/165F (not to mention unlocking nades or racks).
It's still more than Med HQ + Schwerer HQ, while I consider Schwerer HQ superior to Major.

I see no reason why last tier of OKW should be cheaper or in line with last tier of USF since it provides damn powerful units + locking down sector.

120F for Schwerer seems reasonable for me.

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 21:15 PMAustralian Magic

To unlock E8 you need to pay 155/165F (not to mention unlocking nades or racks).
It's still more than Med HQ + Schwerer HQ, while I consider Schwerer HQ superior to Major.

I see no reason why last tier of OKW should be cheaper or in line with last tier of USF since it provides damn powerful units + locking down sector.

120F for Schwerer seems reasonable for me.

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 21:29 PMAchtAchter

It's not cheaper when you consider unit costs, the time of arrival for the tanks is the same since the cheapest unit costs 135 fuel in that tier.