Some dude tries to grenspam vs USF, fails, goes to forums to qq, axis trio infernale jumps in to support him and the thread boils down to expensive inf with expensive upgrades beating cheap inf with cheap unpgrade, because scrubs around don't know what sniper is or how to use hmg42 in conjunction with other hmg42s and grens.
vs usf the best thing you can do is never build grens... If you're fighting the faction with the best mainline infantry,and youre building mainline infantry to counter...No shit riflemen will stomp you.. just substitute with CHEAP AND SCALING Ostruppen,either mobile defense or the ostruppen doc, but even then not too many ostruppen,just 1 or 2. Just to have a Faust-Web for the light vehicles to protect ur sniper.
2 ostruppen and an MG + Pio will trade stupidly well with 2 riflemen and an RE for example.
get 2 MGs
and a sniper...
in no particular order. These are your cheat codes.
and then just focus on killing or deterring the light vehicle,whether its LT tier or captain tier, you should be able to put down 2 tellers since ur not buying LMGs and you dont NEED a med bunker,then have a field day,because cheap infantry supported by support weapons AND a sniper is straight up cheating vs USF.
Add in those 'shit' panzergrenadiers to support, maybe a 251,and usf player will be ripping their hair out at the impenetrability of your lines...unless theyre
really fucken good. Or theyre just better than you.
The ONLY counterplay to that is lucky pack howie hits or a light vehicle seeping through and getting the sniper. Or just being bad/playing bad and not knowing how to use MGs and snipers.
Or playing on a map where snipers dont really have alot of clear shots.
Otherwise its pure
cheats.
Brits its the same thing,no point in investing too heavily in grens when you know sections are really good/more potential to be better. So OSTRUPPEN. And countersnipe the brit one when he comes to counter you!
Vs soviets, grens are still grens. Raping conscripts, dueling with guards, and tackling shocks with MG support since 2013.
Ive fought a fair share of "4x Grens into Rifleman OP" opening type players.
Seriously, NO SHIT. You have no supression,no sniper,(which is blatantly ignoring all the strong units ostheer starts with)and your infantry is out gunned. OF COURSE youre gonna lose the line to riflemen.
And no I dont see any problemo with certain units being "not-sogood" vs certain factions. At all. Because otherwise Ostheer would roflstomp everyone if Grens could beat Sections and rifles 1v1,in addition to having the best support in the fucking game.