Login

russian armor

Rework volley fire

9 Nov 2015, 21:14 PM
#1
avatar of TheMux2

Posts: 139

The already squishy low hp rear echelon have the luxery to pay 15(?) muni to die even faster.

This ability was OP on release but as with a lot of things, got overnerfed into uselessness .
My idea was, to reduce or just remove the extra received accuracy when the ability is active and maybe add a slow debuff (like the para 1919 lmg ability) on the squad that has been targeted by volleyfire. Increase the cost maybe to 20-25.

What do you guys think?
9 Nov 2015, 21:16 PM
#2
avatar of SpaceHamster
Patrion 14

Posts: 474

The penalties on using volley fire on RE's need to be toned down or removed.

I remember trying to volley fire at an ober squad running straight at my BAR RE's, they all got oneshotted by the lmg the obers were carrying.
9 Nov 2015, 21:49 PM
#3
avatar of F1sh

Posts: 521

+1 volley fire is pretty useless with how much extra damage you take
9 Nov 2015, 22:06 PM
#4
avatar of Sedghammer

Posts: 179

Agreed, it would be great if there was the dynamic of the RE's providing suppression before riflemen moved in to engage. Right now it's a niche ability that I use if the squad has a BAR and vet 2.
9 Nov 2015, 22:07 PM
#5
avatar of medhood

Posts: 621

It should suppress units not in cover faster in my opinion so you cant just have sturmpioneers just charge at you through open ground but it shouldnt work as well on units in heavy cover
9 Nov 2015, 22:13 PM
#6
avatar of Switzerland
Donator 33

Posts: 545

The ability should continue down the current path given to it. When active the ability would now suicide the entire RE squad instantly but insta pins the enemy squad, terrified at the suicidal display of volley fire 2.0

Lol but seriously the I die now button is silly.
9 Nov 2015, 22:32 PM
#7
avatar of Vuther
Senior Moderator Badge

Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1

The ability should continue down the current path given to it. When active the ability would now suicide the entire RE squad instantly but insta pins the enemy squad, terrified at the suicidal display of volley fire 2.0

Lol but seriously the I die now button is silly.

They fire so fast the recoil smashes their guns into their noses, forcing said noses' bones into their brains.
9 Nov 2015, 22:57 PM
#8
avatar of Dullahan

Posts: 1384

Only good when you have double bar or m1919.

Nerfed way too hard. All you ever had to do was kite it, but people were too dumb to figure that out.
9 Nov 2015, 23:08 PM
#9
avatar of Bananenheld

Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1

Only good when you have double bar or m1919.

Nerfed way too hard. All you ever had to do was kite it, but people were too dumb to figure that out.

maybe my memory is tricking me but at release they just pinned you instantly which made early game unplayable
9 Nov 2015, 23:36 PM
#10
avatar of broodwarjc

Posts: 824

Only good when you have double bar or m1919.

Nerfed way too hard. All you ever had to do was kite it, but people were too dumb to figure that out.


You are wrong. The ability activated in a nano-second and allowed no counter-play.


maybe my memory is tricking me but at release they just pinned you instantly which made early game unplayable


You are correct. The ability insta-pinned the moment REs saw the enemy infantry.
9 Nov 2015, 23:41 PM
#11
avatar of SpaceHamster
Patrion 14

Posts: 474

I remember WFA launch date. The OKW players would truck crush people and USF players would make 4+ RE squads, get M1919s and suppress everything on the field. Just lulz.
9 Nov 2015, 23:49 PM
#12
avatar of Gbpirate
Senior Editor Badge

Posts: 1153 | Subs: 1

I think volley fire is fine. If you use it in cover, especially heavy cover, or a building, you are fine if there isn't overwhelming firepower coming in. Using volley fire out of cover is stupid unless if you're trying to hit a pio squad charging at you.
If there's a sturmpio in your face, if you're not in cover, if your RE is out of position, don't use volleyfire. Retreat or reposition.
10 Nov 2015, 00:25 AM
#13
avatar of Skabinsk

Posts: 238

that the minimum they need to removed the received accuracy on the ability when shooting, they die fast enough already.
10 Nov 2015, 01:10 AM
#14
avatar of Kilopede

Posts: 1

should be able to target vehicles and work in conjunction with bazookas, allowing you to punish armor that gets too close
10 Nov 2015, 01:18 AM
#15
avatar of BeefSurge

Posts: 1891

Instead of a increase in damage taken, REs should not be able to move.
10 Nov 2015, 01:24 AM
#16
avatar of Dullahan

Posts: 1384



You are wrong. The ability activated in a nano-second and allowed no counter-play.


Hardly, it took 3-4 seconds to suppress originally.

Most people popped it the second they saw you too so all you had to do was turn around. Or use line of sight/shot blockers. Fast for Coh2 standards, but not really all that fast imo.

Regardless, there's a great deal of wiggle room between original volley fire and current volley fire. If on command suppression is too powerful then change it to something else. (Which it may very well be for such a cheap and spammable unit, perhaps making it a vet 1 ability would balance it out)
10 Nov 2015, 01:26 AM
#17
avatar of Nuclear Arbitor
Patrion 28

Posts: 2470

i think the current suppression time is fine but the negative received accuracy needs to go.
10 Nov 2015, 02:38 AM
#18
avatar of SturmTigerGaddafi
Benefactor 355

Posts: 779 | Subs: 3

Replacing Volley Fire with some other ability would probably be da step in right direction. If Relic somewhat buffs da current ability, it will be abused on large scale. Alternatively, the current state makes it completely useless. I say give REs ability to build some additional defensive structures (sandbags, trenches, mines or some gimmicky pudding like fortified tank traps).
10 Nov 2015, 03:35 AM
#19
avatar of Kamzil118

Posts: 455

Maybe give them M1 Garands at vet three, but the DPS is lower than that of a rifleman squad? I'm just throwing an idea out here so a good reasonable response would be nice.
10 Nov 2015, 03:54 AM
#20
avatar of CookiezNcreem
Senior Strategist Badge
Donator 11

Posts: 3052 | Subs: 15

Delete them... Delete Rear echelon from the game.

Replace RE with Fresh-from-boot-camp-riflemen, and then replace normal riflemen with Rangers.

Replace the rangers in heavy cav with VETERAN Marines.
1 user is browsing this thread: 1 guest

Livestreams

unknown 26

Ladders Top 10

  • #
    Steam Alias
    W
    L
    %
    Streak
Data provided by Relic Relic Entertainment

Replay highlight

VS
  • U.S. Forces flag cblanco ★
  • The British Forces flag 보드카 중대
  • Oberkommando West flag VonManteuffel
  • Ostheer flag Heartless Jäger
uploaded by XXxxHeartlessxxXX

Board Info

870 users are online: 870 guests
3 posts in the last 24h
4 posts in the last week
23 posts in the last month
Registered members: 48724
Welcome our newest member, kubetstore
Most online: 2043 users on 29 Oct 2023, 01:04 AM