T-34/76 - just little fix
23 Oct 2015, 16:11 PM
#61
Posts: 2070
i think the t34/76 currently costs too much manpower for the performance. Having a cheap "zerg" tank swarming your enemy should be a legit tactic. Currently, the 734/76 is in a poor spot. You cannot spam that many of them to make a big difference.
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
23 Oct 2015, 16:29 PM
#62
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Permanently Bannedi think the t34/76 currently costs too much manpower for the performance. Having a cheap "zerg" tank swarming your enemy should be a legit tactic. Currently, the 734/76 is in a poor spot. You cannot spam that many of them to make a big difference.This is exactly what I want from the t34/76. I don't really encourage spam, but t34/76s were iconic for being cheap and come in large numbers. Since its now a late game tank this is the perfect opportunity to make it like 260 mp 70 fuel, reduce reload to 5.5. I think that would be great, the russians being able to mass produce t34s should be a legit tactic, but currently they are still too costly. Unlike many other tanks I think the problem can be fixed by simply keep lowering the price until its perfect. I've say no less than 65, but 80 is still too much. 70 just sounds perfect.
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axis
23 Oct 2015, 16:37 PM
#63
Posts: 670
Molotovs should be tossed every so often as well and if you upgraded AT Grenades, they throw those as well at nearby tanks. In fact, just make a conscript pop out of the top hatch and have him do conscript things including building of sandbags on the tank and even flare mines for a very weird defense option!
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23 Oct 2015, 16:44 PM
#64
Posts: 306
This is exactly what I want from the t34/76. I don't really encourage spam, but t34/76s were iconic for being cheap and come in large numbers. Since its now a late game tank this is the perfect opportunity to make it like 260-270 mp 70 fuel, reduce reload to 5.5. I think that would be great, the russians being able to mass produce t34s should be a legit tactic, but currently they are still too costly. Unlike many other tanks I think the problem can be fixed by simply keep lowering the price until its perfect. I've say no less than 65, but 80 is still too much. 70 just sounds perfect.
With their absolute shit stats, just reduce the fuel cost to 60 and maybe reduce manpower.
Right now, there is no incentive to build them anyways. Everyone goes T3 then call-ins.
Also to note, T34 sucks almost 2x as much as a P4 so theres that balance LOOOL.
23 Oct 2015, 16:49 PM
#65
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With their absolute shit stats, just reduce the fuel cost to 60 and maybe reduce manpower.
Right now, there is no incentive to build them anyways. Everyone goes T3 then call-ins.
Also to note, T34 sucks almost 2x as much as a P4 so theres that balance LOOOL.
I mean yeah its terrible as it should be. But it needs to be a lot cheaper. I'd say performance currently is mostly fine for what a t34/76 should be, just definitely not price.
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axis
23 Oct 2015, 16:53 PM
#66
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
Meanwhile, relic doing relic stuff. 
Lets make a shitty tank that is good only in great numbers, but lets make sure it have high mp cost and high pop cost so it can't be spammed
Lets ignore the fact that it should have vet requirements lowered as well because currently it vets like it was 100fu tank.
#justrelicthings
Lets make a shitty tank that is good only in great numbers, but lets make sure it have high mp cost and high pop cost so it can't be spammed
Lets ignore the fact that it should have vet requirements lowered as well because currently it vets like it was 100fu tank.
#justrelicthings
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
23 Oct 2015, 17:01 PM
#67
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Permanently BannedMeanwhile, relic doing relic stuff.tank veterancy rate is so fucked on so many different vehicles.
Lets make a shitty tank that is good only in great numbers, but lets make sure it have high mp cost and high pop cost so it can't be spammed
Lets ignore the fact that it should have vet requirements lowered as well because currently it vets like it was 100fu tank.
#justrelicthings
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axis
23 Oct 2015, 17:46 PM
#68
Posts: 2070
This is exactly what I want from the t34/76. I don't really encourage spam, but t34/76s were iconic for being cheap and come in large numbers. Since its now a late game tank this is the perfect opportunity to make it like 260 mp 70 fuel, reduce reload to 5.5. I think that would be great, the russians being able to mass produce t34s should be a legit tactic, but currently they are still too costly. Unlike many other tanks I think the problem can be fixed by simply keep lowering the price until its perfect. I've say no less than 65, but 80 is still too much. 70 just sounds perfect.
yes i agree. right now Panthers and KTs can take on multiple t34/76s (unless there is some bad micro involved). Spamming very cheap tanks would/should be a counter to strong, individual units.
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
23 Oct 2015, 17:48 PM
#69
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
tank veterancy rate is so fucked on so many different vehicles.
True that.
Basically the only off-cost vehicles that kind of deserve current situation in relation to that are doctrinal armor locked in tech.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
23 Oct 2015, 18:17 PM
#70
Posts: 1484
The introduction of Shrek blob doomed T-34/76 for many players. I really liked the fact Relic changed the AT nades/Faust mechanic but the price and performance of Tank is not worth it.
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23 Oct 2015, 18:23 PM
#71
Posts: 179
I agree completely that the veterancy requirements should be reduced due to the reduced cost and later appearance on the field.
23 Oct 2015, 22:23 PM
#72
Posts: 344
tank veterancy rate is so fucked on so many different vehicles.
Brummbar veterancy is ridiculous. It take a lot of kills to level it up.
On the contrary, AT infantry weapons gives too much experience and let infantry level too fast.
24 Oct 2015, 00:09 AM
#73
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
Zerg solution: T34-76s comes in pairs > 500mp, 140f, 18popcap
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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24 Oct 2015, 07:50 AM
#74
Posts: 306
Meanwhile, relic doing relic stuff.
Lets make a shitty tank that is good only in great numbers, but lets make sure it have high mp cost and high pop cost so it can't be spammed
Lets ignore the fact that it should have vet requirements lowered as well because currently it vets like it was 100fu tank.
#justrelicthings
Katherine also forgot to mention the post where PQ "fixed" a bug that made the T34 fire faster. #lelic
This was actually one of the patches where the T34 wasn't as shit... but still shit.
24 Oct 2015, 10:05 AM
#75
Posts: 770
Bloody hell people. The t-34 has 30 less armour 4 less dps and 20 les penetration at long range. its far from shit.
24 Oct 2015, 10:13 AM
#76
Posts: 1122
260mp 90fuel. Further nerf armor and penetration.
This thing should be extremely spammable, but weak in comparison to real tanks.
Btw, how much m10 cost?
This thing should be extremely spammable, but weak in comparison to real tanks.
Btw, how much m10 cost?
24 Oct 2015, 10:46 AM
#77
Posts: 275 | Subs: 1
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
24 Oct 2015, 10:49 AM
#78
Posts: 1122
270mp 80 fuel 10 cap
Lol, relic are you even trying. It infinitely better than those crappy t34s.
24 Oct 2015, 11:41 AM
#79
4 Posts: 474
Lol, relic are you even trying. It infinitely better than those crappy t34s.
And you can get more than 10 of em too with decrewing
M10 crush. All day, everyday.
24 Oct 2015, 13:32 PM
#80
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Bloody hell people. The t-34 has 30 less armour 4 less dps and 20 les penetration at long range. its far from shit.Those stats are in comparison to PzIV? If so, please take into account scatter values and accuracy as well, and AoE (which is what kills infantry). Also consider that in most tank engagements both tanks will be moving, therefore include the movement penalty.
The t34 also sits at the top of the tech tree, whereas the Panzer is T3.
But okay, if armour and pen numbers are what you wish to base your balance arguments around exclusively, I suppose you could do that.
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