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UKF - Know your commanders

22 Aug 2015, 19:56 PM
#61
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Aug 2015, 19:53 PMKatitof


None, because brits suck in 1v1.



Wow where have you been playing the Brits?

You heard it here first guys, Katitof has already found out that Brits are terrible in 1v1 based on information from a months old Alpha.
22 Aug 2015, 19:56 PM
#62
avatar of Alexzandvar

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Don't forget that British flamers do more damage against units in cover and buildings, +50% for cover and +100% for buildings. The flames also linger, unlike other flamer's "flames" do.
22 Aug 2015, 20:11 PM
#63
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Don't forget that British flamers do more damage against units in cover and buildings, +50% for cover and +100% for buildings. The flames also linger, unlike other flamer's "flames" do.


Source? And all flamers already do extra damage to units in green cover I thought.
22 Aug 2015, 20:54 PM
#64
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Aug 2015, 19:52 PMRollo
Croc has larger range because it has no turret for the flamer and costs an arm and a leg


It has a 75mm Gun Turret though.
22 Aug 2015, 20:57 PM
#65
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Aug 2015, 20:11 PMQbix


Source? And all flamers already do extra damage to units in green cover I thought.


Nope, all flamers do normal damage to units in cover.
22 Aug 2015, 22:21 PM
#66
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It has a 75mm Gun Turret though.


and it's slower and more expensive compared to the KV-8, imo it was fine in alpha once it's price was adjusted.

22 Aug 2015, 22:28 PM
#67
avatar of Silvertooth

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why is most of the abilities have abilities within them like flares and smokes etc. while only a trench is whole an ability and occupying place in doctrines on germans. What is this "abilityception"
22 Aug 2015, 22:54 PM
#68
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Aug 2015, 22:21 PMRollo


and it's slower and more expensive compared to the KV-8, imo it was fine in alpha once it's price was adjusted.



http://www.companyofheroes.com/blog/2015/07/21

In th the Alpha, they repriced it to 600 mp 180 fuel (from 700 mp). On the Churchill page of Relic blog, it shows its priced at 700mp 140 fuel at 12 CP, compared to kv-8 of 390 mp 145 fuel at whatever cp it comes at. I assume they must have nerfed the Croc between now and Alpha end to make it cost a bit less fuel than a kv-8?

The two croc commanders are going to be the "rare" commanders, so i dont think anyone will be able to tell its firepower until someone sacrifices enough goats and gets a commander from War spoils.
WHO
22 Aug 2015, 23:43 PM
#69
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Nope, all flamers do normal damage to units in cover.


Pretty sure he's trolling.
23 Aug 2015, 00:35 AM
#70
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Wow where have you been playing the Brits?

You heard it here first guys, Katitof has already found out that Brits are terrible in 1v1 based on information from a months old Alpha.


Must be true if master Katitof said it!
23 Aug 2015, 05:41 AM
#71
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Brits seem to just be "Fuck OKW: the faction".
They have their own bigger and better AT and flak emplacements, eliter commandos that melt elite Obers and ridiculous indirect fire call ins and general commander abilities.
Then you have the AVRE and Crocodile wiping up volks blobs and forward trucks to top it off.
23 Aug 2015, 06:44 AM
#72
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Brits seem to just be "Fuck OKW: the faction".
They have their own bigger and better AT and flak emplacements, eliter commandos that melt elite Obers and ridiculous indirect fire call ins and general commander abilities.
Then you have the AVRE and Crocodile wiping up volks blobs and forward trucks to top it off.


The Croc may be a legit balance issue (not just against OKW) depending on whether or not they've nerfed it, but I would seriously not worry about the AT / Flak emplacements, there are definitely hard counters to those that OKW has access to.
23 Aug 2015, 09:21 AM
#73
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http://www.companyofheroes.com/blog/2015/07/21

In th the Alpha, they repriced it to 600 mp 180 fuel (from 700 mp). On the Churchill page of Relic blog, it shows its priced at 700mp 140 fuel at 12 CP, compared to kv-8 of 390 mp 145 fuel at whatever cp it comes at. I assume they must have nerfed the Croc between now and Alpha end to make it cost a bit less fuel than a kv-8?

The two croc commanders are going to be the "rare" commanders, so i dont think anyone will be able to tell its firepower until someone sacrifices enough goats and gets a commander from War spoils.
The whole depending on war spoils for rare commanders would be a fiasco like WFA commanders, and the fact that the "suspect" ones are drops only would be bs. If people want them let them buy em.
23 Aug 2015, 09:27 AM
#74
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Brits seem to just be "Fuck OKW: the faction"


Go for something like stuka into sturmtiger or luchs rush into sturmtiger, wipe several squads which brits cant afford to lose, destroy any emplacements you want, pressure them to make bleed even more, enjoy easy wins.

Looks fine to me.
23 Aug 2015, 10:47 AM
#75
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Aug 2015, 22:21 PMRollo


and it's slower and more expensive compared to the KV-8, imo it was fine in alpha once it's price was adjusted.



More expensive < Main gun+flamer, more HP, more armor, flamer range.

Nothing justifies driving on teller mine in front of double Paks at 50-60 range and killing them with flamer before they can even shoot twice.
23 Aug 2015, 11:54 AM
#76
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i recon elite armor doctrine as okw will be quite popular..p4 + heat round and then yummy sturmtiger
23 Aug 2015, 11:56 AM
#77
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More expensive < Main gun+flamer, more HP, more armor, flamer range.

Nothing justifies driving on teller mine in front of double Paks at 50-60 range and killing them with flamer before they can even shoot twice.


I think you've played with different croc then I did.
Mine took ages to vet to get range increase and wasn't even close to 60 range.
Also, melted to 2 stugs in seconds.
23 Aug 2015, 12:38 PM
#78
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The Croc may be a legit balance issue (not just against OKW) depending on whether or not they've nerfed it, but I would seriously not worry about the AT / Flak emplacements, there are definitely hard counters to those that OKW has access to.


The retarded thing is that the way the bonus damage works on emplacements light artillery like mortars and LeiG's are 1000 times more effective against them than heavy artillery like Stuka's or LefH's because of brace.
23 Aug 2015, 14:31 PM
#79
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Aug 2015, 11:56 AMKatitof


I think you've played with different croc then I did.
Mine took ages to vet to get range increase and wasn't even close to 60 range.
Also, melted to 2 stugs in seconds.



Rethink your statement.

23 Aug 2015, 14:33 PM
#80
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Rethink your statement.



thats like 40 - 45 range at most
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