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JulianSnow
3 Dec 2018, 11:47 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Nov 2018, 17:32 PMVipper

Burst duration near 1 - 1.7


Which will only increase the DPS which was already to high according the HTML :P

0.621 * 5 * (1+5,5 = 6,5) * (1+ 1.375 * 10 = 23.75) = 479.334
/
(0,04 + 3,15 – 0,04 – 0,75 = 2.4) + (1 + 5,5 = 6.5) * (0 + 0 + 0,04 + 0,75 + 1,375 = 2.165) = 19.269
=
24.875

Which should be 16.034, is Cruzz still an active member around the fora?
- Who has time? ... But then if we do not ever take time, how can we ever have time? huh?
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Vipper
3 Dec 2018, 12:00 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Dec 2018, 11:47 AMJulianSnow


Which will only increase the DPS which was already to high according the HTML :P

0.621 * 5 * (1+5,5 = 6,5) * (1+ 1.375 * 10 = 23.75) = 479.334
/
(0,04 + 3,15 – 0,04 – 0,75 = 2.4) + (1 + 5,5 = 6.5) * (0 + 0 + 0,04 + 0,75 + 1,375 = 2.165) = 19.269
=
24.875

Which should be 16.034, is Cruzz still an active member around the fora?

According to Relic the DPS for the assault_pioneer_mp44_smg_mp is (0/10/20/30)

15.9/10.8/4.9/1.2
:)
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JulianSnow
4 Dec 2018, 09:06 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Dec 2018, 12:00 PMVipper

According to Relic


Where do I find this info? Cause I've searched for it but without result and in the end I only found the savior's HTML file.
- Who has time? ... But then if we do not ever take time, how can we ever have time? huh?
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Vipper
4 Dec 2018, 09:25 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 Dec 2018, 09:06 AMJulianSnow


Where do I find this info? Cause I've searched for it but without result and in the end I only found the savior's HTML file.

the Relic spread can be created if you download the COH2 Tools.
:)
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Widerstreit
6 Dec 2018, 18:26 PM
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Also reload frequency is max=5 min=4, how did you get 5,5?

EDIT:

I used a old calculator-excel-sheet to calculate it new:

near:16,418 middle:7,641 far:1,215


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Widerstreit
6 Dec 2018, 20:57 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Dec 2018, 12:00 PMVipper

According to Relic the DPS for the assault_pioneer_mp44_smg_mp is (0/10/20/30)

15.9/10.8/4.9/1.2


Do you know how they calculate the DPS?
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Vipper
6 Dec 2018, 23:25 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2018, 20:57 PMWiderstreit


Do you know how they calculate the DPS?

well you can see the equation in spread sheet but is allot characters...
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Widerstreit
6 Dec 2018, 23:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2018, 23:25 PMVipper

well you can see the equation in spread sheet but is allot characters...


https://1drv.ms/x/s!Auba63jVJDDGnMg3POMqaxgjrHz5TQ

That is my try to calculate the DPS. But after I saw that my calculcation isn't the same as the tools I stoped to evaluating.
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Vipper
7 Dec 2018, 00:15 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2018, 23:29 PMWiderstreit


https://1drv.ms/x/s!Auba63jVJDDGnMg3POMqaxgjrHz5TQ

That is my try to calculate the DPS. But after I saw that my calculcation isn't the same as the tools I stoped to evaluating.

First of all make sure you are looking at the correct weapons:

Stupioneer use "assault_pioneer_mp44_smg_mp" and not "sturm_pioneer_mp44_smg_mp"

for range 3///15///28 according to relic the DPS should be:
15.89///7.64///1.22
:)
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Widerstreit
7 Dec 2018, 00:29 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Dec 2018, 00:15 AMVipper

First of all make sure you are looking at the correct weapons:

Stupioneer use "assault_pioneer_mp44_smg_mp" and not "sturm_pioneer_mp44_smg_mp"

for range 3///15///28 according to relic the DPS should be:
15.89///7.64///1.22


Sturmpionier is the German name of this troup.

a. my Excel isn't correct
b. something else isn't correct.

Do you have a working calculator?
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Vipper
7 Dec 2018, 00:34 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Dec 2018, 00:29 AMWiderstreit


Sturmpionier is the German name of this troup.

a. my Excel isn't correct
b. something else isn't correct.

Do you have a working calculator?

Both weapons exist in game and are different.

OKW sturmpioneer use "assault_pioneer_mp44_smg_mp"
:)
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Widerstreit
7 Dec 2018, 01:36 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Dec 2018, 00:34 AMVipper

Both weapons exist in game and are different.

OKW sturmpioneer use "assault_pioneer_mp44_smg_mp"


Hm, I am sure I used the right one. But I come very close to Relic's stats.

I don't know the error.
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Osinyagov
25 Dec 2018, 20:35 PM
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Hannibal
30 Jul 2019, 18:27 PM
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I know this is a very old thread, I think the best for more or less random questions.

Can tanks crush squads on retreat? Or are these too fast?
True infantry DPS calculator!
Download and Info here (infantry DPS) and here (power model)
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JibberJabberJobber
30 Jul 2019, 18:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Jul 2019, 18:27 PMHannibal
I know this is a very old thread, I think the best for more or less random questions.

Can tanks crush squads on retreat? Or are these too fast?


Models become immune to crushing once they retreat.
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Hannibal
30 Jul 2019, 18:37 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Jul 2019, 18:29 PMJibberJabberJobber


Models become immune to crushing once they retreat.

Thanks!
Just wanted to be sure, since retreating models clip through tanks more often than usual.
True infantry DPS calculator!
Download and Info here (infantry DPS) and here (power model)
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elchino7
30 Jul 2019, 18:42 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Jul 2019, 18:37 PMHannibal

Thanks!
Just wanted to be sure, since retreating models clip through tanks more often than usual.


Talking about clipping, if you want to increase your chances of your vehicle not clipping at all, press stop.
This is the difference between a good flank and one on which the enemy tank just lols at you and phases through.
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JibberJabberJobber
30 Jul 2019, 19:27 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Jul 2019, 18:42 PMelchino7


Talking about clipping, if you want to increase your chances of your vehicle not clipping at all, press stop.
This is the difference between a good flank and one on which the enemy tank just lols at you and phases through.


don't do it once, spam halt for true blocking powers. :megusta:

If you want your own tank to move through another one of your tanks/vehicles, give move commands for boths.
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Sander93
21 Aug 2019, 10:21 AM
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So basically, focus fire set to false seems to allow squads to re-roll misses into hits... just not on the squad it's targeting but on other squads.

Basically it seems like:
- focus fire = True means that misses can not hit other squads;
- focus fire = False means that misses can hit other squads, allowing the squad to deal some additional DPS to other squads nearby.

It doesn't seem to affect DPS versus the targeted squad, but it's hard to tell.

Here's 4 tests. In all tests I only targeted the squad in front.

Test #1, Kar 98K rifles. Rifles have no focus fire option, and misses do not deal damage to the second squad.


Test #2, FG 42s. Focus Fire = False. Misses deal damage to the second squad.


Test #3, PGrens STG 44s. Focus Fire = False. Misses deal damage to the second squad.


Test #4, FG 42s with Focus Fire set to True. Misses now do not deal damage to the second squad.

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Vipper
21 Aug 2019, 10:24 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Aug 2019, 10:21 AMSander93




Great post it always nice to get clarification on game mechanics.
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