m36-Jackson is over performing

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 08:18 AMBurts

The USF at gun is fine. 70 range with vet 1, sights for itself, best rate of fire in the game, low pen but with AP rounds has almost the same pen as zis-3.


Bazookas do not need a buff. If zooks got better then we would have the same horrible bloberino we see with volks.


They just need to be 45 munis

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 17:43 PMacosn

The USF ATG is a joke.


Three guns covering the same road can barely scratch a Panther pushing through even with the specialized rounds being used.


I'll pay more if it means getting an ATG that isn't made of ass.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 15:04 PMOZtheWiZARD

This is gardening gold! How about Volks with Shreks? Jackson do sheep to infantry. Volks squad will just sit in front of it shooting shrecks left and right. If he goes for crash, then you hit him with raketen and other stuff from the second line.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 18:11 PMAlexzandvar

If your sprinting your Jacksons in the range of shreks and racktens then your an idiot. A good player will always keep his Jacksons behind his infantry horde and supported by Scotts and HE Shermans.

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Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 00:17 AMdaspoulos

57mm at gun maybe needs ability cost reduction. But its only 270 manpower and has higher fire rate, great abilities and arc. Its mostly fine.

Bazooka IMO damage should be increased to 100 the penetration and cost is mostly fine.

A suggestiion that may not be needed would be to make bazookas free with teching to major, while keping the upgrade around for if you need them earlier. OR include bazooka rack upgrade with BAR or grenade upgrade.

Lieutenant into 4:50 minute m20 is quite bullshit though, but mostly cuz ost pays an arm and leg to tech up. Jackson AP round ability kind outrageous but not a huge deal.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 00:35 AMRMMLz

The problem with the bazooka -at least for me- is not the research price or the munition price. As I have stated in my previous comment, the trade of is terrible. You lose a lot of DPS (2 Garands) and you lose BAR slot. That will cripple you in terms of AI capabilities. And before some people start saying L2P YOU CAN WIN LIKE DIS WITH DAT etc, again it's about the trade off, it's easier to win with BARs and Jacksons, so give me a reason (i.e buff bazooka's stats not the price) so I will be willing to lose AI DPS.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 00:45 AMdaspoulos

I mean bazookas are usually best on rear ech, just cuz they are cheap as chips, bazooka will get them to vet 2 quicker so 5th man and better repairs. I mean you can put them on riflemen and go like 1 bar 1 bazooka. Expensive but turns rifles into really well rounded troops that don't excel super well at anything but are a decently durable soft threat to anything almost. I mean rifles with bazookas are fairly durable have an engine snare and have smoke/nades. But I get what you're coming from they are expensive and still require other units to help them because they won't perform exceedingly well vs elite infantry or late game tanks..

Thats why its still best to go rear ech bazookas and ai on your riflemen.

Think of it that way.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 01:26 AMGbpirate

Can someone please fix the spelling of this stupid thread?

Thanks.

Heil Grammar

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 00:38 AMImagelessbean

@OP I also lol'd.


Also seriously, mods can you ban Alex? This thread is a perfect example of a larger issue. He is not contributing to the discussion in any meaningful way but the topic has largely been consumed by trying to answer ridiculous hypothetical scenarios.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 00:45 AMdaspoulos

I mean bazookas are usually best on rear ech, just cuz they are cheap as chips, bazooka will get them to vet 2 quicker so 5th man and better repairs. I mean you can put them on riflemen and go like 1 bar 1 bazooka. Expensive but turns rifles into really well rounded troops that don't excel super well at anything but are a decently durable soft threat to anything almost. I mean rifles with bazookas are fairly durable have an engine snare and have smoke/nades. But I get what you're coming from they are expensive and still require other units to help them because they won't perform exceedingly well vs elite infantry or late game tanks..

Thats why its still best to go rear ech bazookas and ai on your riflemen.

Think of it that way.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2015, 18:54 PMAlexzandvar

I'm glad to see the usual suspects adding nothing to the thread.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 18:11 PMAlexzandvar

If your sprinting your Jacksons in the range of shreks and racktens then your an idiot. A good player will always keep his Jacksons behind his infantry horde and supported by Scotts and HE Shermans.

OKW has no infantry based counter to the Jackson due to it's mobility and 60 range, the best counter you have as OKW is the JPIV and Panther.

Alternatively as I said earlier if your USF enemy is being a cheeky bugger and blobbing like crazy get a Sturmtiger and make him weep because his Jacksons can't handle a 1280 health unit.