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It will take about good 3 years for the game to be fully balanced.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Let's compare Soviet and OKW tech costs:
Soviet T1 or T2: 50 fuel
Soviet T3 or T4: 120 fuel
Soviet T-70: 70 fuel (need to invest 50 + 120 + 70 = 240 fuel to get out)
Soviet T-34: 110 fuel (need to invest 50 + 120 + 110 = 280 fuel to get out, note: 20 fuel more than double T-34/85s which are a lot better)
On top of that soviets need to tech at leats AT nades for additional 25 fuel. Molotovs are pretty good too, even just for cover denial or winning engagements, another 25 fuel - while OKW comes with schrecks just at the expense of munitions, very cheap grenades and obers have free LMG34s.
OKW T1 or T2: 40 fuel
OKW Flak HQ: 80 fuel
OKW Puma: 100 fuel (need to invest 40 + 100 = 140 fuel to get out)
OKW Luchs: 50 fuel (need to invest 40 + 80 + 50 = 170 fuel to get out)
OKW Panther: 175 fuel (need to invest 40 + 80 + 175 = 295 fuel to get out)
The 66% fuel income doesn't mean anything when the teching costs are dirt cheap. The panther counters the T-34 by miles with just 15 fuel more. This needs to be adjusted. It's even more broken in team games if the OKW player is supplied using the luftwaffe fuel supply (most broken out of these), fuel caches or Opel trucks.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
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Assuming no new factions will be added.
I'd like to see something more and for coh2 to really become best WW2 platform around, but if it happens it'll be another year of same problems.
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They will need to keep adding expansions and/or payed content. Another 3 years on CoH2 isn't feasible without a steady trickle of income to pay for the support.
I'd prefer they basically abandon CoH2 at this point, maybe a few commanders and ToW missions and announce CoH3.
1940/41 setting
Commonwealth, France
vs
Germany, Italy
No Tigers, no MP44s
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Could even do a '41 era Soviets thing but I can't think of a third faction to add unless it's... ostheer... again. God I'm sick of two Germ factions every game
all you filthy hotchkiss lovers need to l2p #TeamPanzerIII
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Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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Well if it's 1941 they can do Romania, Romania actually had vehicles that were relevent in 1941. Even though those tanks were French and Czech made and thus would probably also appear in French and German factions.
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Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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Pocketsize: "I can't wait till they add british to CoH: O; the extreme forces leveled by the new imbalances will create a black hole around the servers that destroys half of Canada."
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Let's compare Soviet and OKW tech costs:
Soviet T1 or T2: 50 fuel
Soviet T3 or T4: 120 fuel
Soviet T-70: 70 fuel (need to invest 50 + 120 + 70 = 240 fuel to get out)
Soviet T-34: 110 fuel (need to invest 50 + 120 + 110 = 280 fuel to get out, note: 20 fuel more than double T-34/85s which are a lot better)
On top of that soviets need to tech at leats AT nades for additional 25 fuel. Molotovs are pretty good too, even just for cover denial or winning engagements, another 25 fuel - while OKW comes with schrecks just at the expense of munitions, very cheap grenades and obers have free LMG34s.
OKW T1 or T2: 40 fuel
OKW Flak HQ: 80 fuel
OKW Puma: 100 fuel (need to invest 40 + 100 = 140 fuel to get out)
OKW Luchs: 50 fuel (need to invest 40 + 80 + 50 = 170 fuel to get out)
OKW Panther: 175 fuel (need to invest 40 + 80 + 175 = 295 fuel to get out)
The 66% fuel income doesn't mean anything when the teching costs are dirt cheap. The panther counters the T-34 by miles with just 15 fuel more. This needs to be adjusted. It's even more broken in team games if the OKW player is supplied using the luftwaffe fuel supply (most broken out of these), fuel caches or Opel trucks.
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the soviet stock units are fine however. what's not fine is accessibility. as i said before if a
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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Double whammy.
Soviet stock units are very bad along with inaccessible tech costs
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Soviet stock units are very bad along with inaccessible tech costs
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no. the problem lies between your chair and the screen.
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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no. the problem lies between your chair and the screen.
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