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The larger squads aren't really that big of a counterbalance to the higher DPS of German units. THey still die very fast due to the fragility of the units. THe 6 man squads are only better at not getting squad wiped by aoe weapons
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Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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its double OP Posts: 2070
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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whats i think about obers and OKW?
this guys kill everything and no counters
its so funny game http://www.coh2.org/file/6392/op-op-ober.rec
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What exactly is allied infantry even good for late game. They can't fight obers, they can't fight tanks, and they can barely fight volks after a while.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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Permanently Banned5 consecutive posts of allied whineboys crying when everybody has lost interest in this cluster fuck of a thread.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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5 consecutive posts of allied whineboys crying when everybody has lost interest in this cluster fuck of a thread. if the okw where so op why do we see the soviets have the highest win rate in 1vs1. and dot other with 2vs2 or that some kind of crap because that doesn't take any skill.
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5 consecutive posts of allied whineboys crying when everybody has lost interest in this cluster fuck of a thread. if the okw where so op why do we see the soviets have the highest win rate in 1vs1. and dot other with 2vs2 or that some kind of crap because that doesn't take any skill.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I don't really get the problem here, are you guys really complaining that a dedicated Infantry hardcounter, actually hardcounters infantry?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Shock troops are also dedicated infantrty hardcounter and guess what? Can be countered by infantry of similar cost. Same can not be said about Ubersoldaten.
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Shock troops are also dedicated infantrty hardcounter and guess what? Can be countered by infantry of similar cost. Same can not be said about Ubersoldaten.
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Kiting counters shocks. Any infantry squad with a rifle or LMG can counter shocks. Shocks are very situational, due to only being effective at very close ranges. If they get close, retreat.
Obers are good at everything, and at all ranges, just because of the lmg (lmg's in general on both sides are OP, and need to be toned down slightly), however lmg34 is just a different league.
I've picked them up on various squads and they just decimate everything, no matter who is holding them.
Therefore, I don't think Obers are the actual problem, it's the lmg which they hold that is the problem (like all lmg's).
The only effective counter to Obers that don't cost fuel, are snipers. Just don't make any mistakes, because surprise surprise, Obers counter snipers too. Or I guess you can pray to the RNG god and hope for a lucky mortar strike.
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Shock troops are also dedicated infantrty hardcounter and guess what? Can be countered by infantry of similar cost. Same can not be said about Ubersoldaten.
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Their is no such thing as kiting with lmg's.
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Lmg grens still have rifles right? By the time shocks hit, you should have at least 2 Grens (at least one with Lmg's), One kites, other fires, thus kiting the shocks will win you the engagement. If you haven't got at least one lmg gren, you're either doing something very wrong, or they went full retard and built T1 into shocks. If so, then you'll have a 222 anyway, which shocks can't deal with.
Are you also aware you don't have to be stationary like lmg grens, for the lmg34 to be effective too?
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