USF Cost of Lieutenant vs effectiveness

Jump back to quoted post28 Jan 2015, 20:06 PMWingZero

Am I the only one who uses the Captain's "Supervise" building ability to pump Shermans and Jacksons at record speed?

Jump back to quoted post28 Jan 2015, 21:48 PMdbmb

Hold up, you get a free unit when unlocking tech and it's not COST EFFECTIVE?

Play some Ostheer.

Jump back to quoted post28 Jan 2015, 22:13 PMCookiezNcreem

Youre right,its only cost effective against ostheer.


most OKW units(Besides unvetted volks at like point blank) eat him alive after a while unless you buff him out with weapons.
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The most useful part of this squad IMO (the thompson) is almost always negated because the LT himself gets killed first all the time.

Jump back to quoted post28 Jan 2015, 17:49 PMAradan

Have lieutenant some buff aura? I hear about accuracy aura, but i cant find any information.

And captain have armour aura (+0,5), it is true?

Jump back to quoted post28 Jan 2015, 23:02 PMJaigen

Are you seriously complaining about a free riflemen squad with a smg and a bar?

Jump back to quoted post28 Jan 2015, 23:02 PMJaigen

Are you seriously complaining about a free riflemen squad with a smg and a bar?

Jump back to quoted post28 Jan 2015, 18:11 PMausterlitz

Lieutenant -oh the free unit that pwns my grenadiers and also outnumbers my army.You want it more cost-effective than free?Go ahead,lol.American infantry need all the buffs they can get after all.Paratrooper reinforce should also be reduced to 25,28 is too cost-ineffective.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2015, 02:45 AMUGBEAR

Do you know there's some other faction which teching doesn't give you anything except access to certain units.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2015, 06:55 AMJohnnyB

Why are you so upset on USF infantry? Ok, I partially understand if you're playing just Ostheer, in early game you are overwhelmed. But the reinforcement, unit costs and experience scalling are working in your favor throughout the game. If the USF player it's not a devil or clearly better than you or he fails to properly preserve his infantry, you have a good chance to win. USF has a big manpower bleed problem in middle and end game.

Wanna clearly dominate USF and burry them into the ground since beginning? Play OKW

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2015, 08:04 AMAradan

Fun. I dont want another fanboy flame war. I only want know, if buff aura (Lieutenant and Captain) for riflemens and para exist.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2015, 08:21 AMRMMLz

Check this out.
http://www.coh2.org/topic/25475/usf-officer-bonuses-and-paratroopers

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2015, 08:15 AMausterlitz

I hate OKW blobbing style.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2015, 08:15 AMausterlitz

And no,usf outscales ost infantry as well.When both are vetted double bars will beat lmgs.at 5 models they are less susceptible to wipe.But most of all the 1919 has no ost counter.Neither does paras blobs at 28 reinforce.LMG grens hold an advantage in midgame for a window of time,earlygame and lategame none.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2015, 09:18 AMJohnnyB

That's to bad. They are fun, especially when you see soviets and USF rage quitting. Ok, I must admit, I have more fun vs soviet rage quitters.



Less susceptible to wipe, expensive like burning hell to build and reinforce especially when they are alot. Double bars are... 120 amo, right? Dunno if in my USF games I have more than one rifle squad with double BAR. I tend to say no. I need amo with USF for to much staff in order to invest it just in BARS. The counter of 1919 is the rifle grenade. Didn't you know? Let me explain: In order to shoot that nasty 1919 the rifle squad must stay still. Just rifle nade it to death. I prefer bars 1000 times over the 1919 because I can be mobile and I can run all over with my small rifle blob. 1919 is best investment for paras BECAUSE THEY CAN SHOOT IT WHILE RUNNING. Paras what? Blobs? Seriously, I wanna have some vehicles to on the field not just infantry. And vehicles cost manpower too, you know?

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2015, 09:49 AMausterlitz

Para firing 1919 on move and 28 reinforce and 6 men,its just lol.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2015, 13:48 PMNEVEC

Obersoldaten firing with thier lmg on the move with 0.75 accuracy, paratroopers with 0.25.

And 28 reinforce is only one thing which makes the useful since this 380 manpower squad have 1.0 received accuracy when shocks have 1.5 armor and all okw elite infantry have 0.83 - o.7 received accuracy.

So OP, so broken, relic pls nurf.