To this day, i never played OKW (the only faction i haven't played, only 2-3 games against AI and this at release of WFA) and i got two, not one, but 2 Spoils only for them. I hope the fix is coming soon because it feels like i get fooled here.
So pissed right now....
War Spoils – A Quick Update by Relic
20 Sep 2014, 20:59 PM
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20 Sep 2014, 21:52 PM
#22
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Long story short:
"Yes, we did not released full system, we eventually will finish it."
They had a full system, but they changed it because people didn't like it. Dupes were supposed to be craftable into "time" which you used to extend your WS Commanders. But people didn't like timed commanders, so they ditched the timers and had no use for Dupes before the game came out.
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20 Sep 2014, 21:52 PM
#23
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To this day, i never played OKW (the only faction i haven't played, only 2-3 games against AI and this at release of WFA) and i got two, not one, but 2 Spoils only for them. I hope the fix is coming soon because it feels like i get fooled here.
So pissed right now....
I'm surprised!
I mean, with OKW, whilst the Sturm go out and start capping (and their wiring is something else!), followed by 2 deadly Kubels, you can amuse yourself demolishing buildings (just jab 3 corners), so that when the Cons/Riffles arrive, full of sweat, looking for a building in which to hide, you just mow them down gradually, introducing the Volks behind sandbags, whilst setting up the T3 truck to repair the Kubels, and develop the Puma.(Bugger the Flakhalftrack). And if you can keep your hands off the peripheries, you can then set up T4 for the Obersoldaten....with a deadly, free flak gun to watch over your cut-off.
Then again, you may prefer to play SU/Ostheer, and keep your skillz intact
20 Sep 2014, 22:05 PM
#24
Posts: 1355
I'm surprised!
I mean, with OKW, whilst the Sturm go out and start capping (and their wiring is something else!), followed by 2 deadly Kubels, you can amuse yourself demolishing buildings (just jab 3 corners), so that when the Cons/Riffles arrive, full of sweat, looking for a building in which to hide, you just mow them down gradually, introducing the Volks behind sandbags, whilst setting up the T3 truck to repair the Kubels, and develop the Puma.(Bugger the Flakhalftrack). And if you can keep your hands off the peripheries, you can then set up T4 for the Obersoldaten....with a deadly, free flak gun to watch over your cut-off.
Then again, you may prefer to play SU/Ostheer, and keep your skillz intact
Yeh, i know! I should play them sometime. I think i am to "scared" to play with them because i believe they are the hardest ones to play. I hope i will overcome myself sometime soon
20 Sep 2014, 22:13 PM
#25
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Yeh, i know! I should play them sometime. I think i am to "scared" to play with them because i believe they are the hardest ones to play. I hope i will overcome myself sometime soon
They're like a drug
It's too easy to get hooked. I didn't mention the LEIG - but take care with the Raketenwerfer, though. It's range is awful...but you can retreat it 
- and put it in a building 
- and lose all your skillz in the process
21 Sep 2014, 03:51 AM
#26
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To this day, i never played OKW (the only faction i haven't played, only 2-3 games against AI and this at release of WFA) and i got two, not one, but 2 Spoils only for them. I hope the fix is coming soon because it feels like i get fooled here.
So pissed right now....
Pfff, i used to not own the expansion and i got commanders for OKW.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
21 Sep 2014, 06:44 AM
#27
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I have yet to figure out OKW personally, I try to learn them against the AI but I just end up with a very thin line lacking both troops and vehicles. The biggest hurdle is trying to figure out how I'm supposed to hold territory with Volksgrenadiers. Blegh, for infantry combat, I'd take Conscripts over them any day.
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21 Sep 2014, 07:47 AM
#28
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I have yet to figure out OKW personally, I try to learn them against the AI but I just end up with a very thin line lacking both troops and vehicles.
Welcome to the REAL DEFINITION of OKW. All "cheese" accusations above are bullshit. And saying that it's easier to play it it's even more bull. Also, don't believe what whiners write about 3v3 or 4v4. Allied have no problems crushing any OKW/Ostheer combo. Cheers.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
21 Sep 2014, 08:03 AM
#29
Posts: 467
I have yet to figure out OKW personally, I try to learn them against the AI but I just end up with a very thin line lacking both troops and vehicles. The biggest hurdle is trying to figure out how I'm supposed to hold territory with Volksgrenadiers. Blegh, for infantry combat, I'd take Conscripts over them any day.
Unless you are at least a fair amount better than your opponent, playing OKW feels a lot like walking on a tightrope. Or at least if you want to do anything more than sit on one point and push from there, which isn't really my style. It helps a fair bit if you can get 1/2 MG34s out but that's doctrine specific...
21 Sep 2014, 19:36 PM
#30
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I have yet to figure out OKW personally, I try to learn them against the AI but I just end up with a very thin line lacking both troops and vehicles. The biggest hurdle is trying to figure out how I'm supposed to hold territory with Volksgrenadiers. Blegh, for infantry combat, I'd take Conscripts over them any day.
Early game:
Use combination of your SP, Volks, Kubel and if you want Truck.
Transition to midgame:
Either you go T2 or T3.
If T2, depending on map, mode and army composition, get a ISG.
If T3, you can get Puma/Flak truck. Stuka if teamgames.
Midgame:
You are either supposed to get Obers (skip any vehicle and just go quick T4) or any of the Elite infantry at this point (PF, JLI, or Falls).
You can use Spec Ops or Scavenger to buff Volks AI performance with cheap assault nade.
MG34 helps with crowd control and defensive positioning if you don't want to use a Kubel. (Kubel with vet1 is AWESOME for holding ground)
Lategame:
Panther or KT. You can try JPIV but it's really more easy to use the first 2 options.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
7 Oct 2014, 14:47 PM
#31
Posts: 1355
Yeh, i got my first Commander for WFA. Yuhu!!!
Oh, wait it is for OKW which i did not play with online yet!
Way to go Relic. Let the War spoils fix wait for another year or so.
Yuhu again and again.
Relic
7 Oct 2014, 22:01 PM
#32
Posts: 508
Damn it guys, stop necoring this! You keep getting my hopes up that there's a new change to warspoils. 
9 Oct 2014, 05:49 AM
#33
Posts: 1216
Having a full system and then devoting insufficient time in revising it equals releasing a system that is in fact not full or finished. Your argument, if it is one, is invalid. I might as well argue that I did in fact have a completed thesis paper, and it should stand despite the fact that I went back to redo it but didn't have enough time so I should deserve that A despite handing in incomplete work; it WOULD have been, right?
They had a full system, but they changed it because people didn't like it. Dupes were supposed to be craftable into "time" which you used to extend your WS Commanders. But people didn't like timed commanders, so they ditched the timers and had no use for Dupes before the game came out.
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