Faction Strength
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if possible give ur thoughts on why u made ur particular choice.Made seperate polls for single and teamgames.
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USF late-game doesn't exists and it's suffers from missing hard-counters through the whole game, by the end of the match they are usually lacking MP as well.
Best in 2v2s and above is OKW as they don't have to get all buildings so they can specialise to maximum potencial if properly supported.
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Can't say something like that in general, depends always on the map and the opposing factions.
Pretty much.
Doctrine choice also impacts that.
Too much variables for single general statement.
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I say Soviets are more superior compared to the Amis in 1v1s as Soviet Forces can operate on every map with full potencial, while USF can't do shit on closed (limited flanks, mobility). In late-game the Soviets are still more powerfull than USF thanks to their unit's durability and tons of commanders.
USF late-game doesn't exists and it's suffers from missing hard-counters through the whole game, by the end of the match they are usually lacking MP as well.
Best in 2v2s and above is OKW as they don't have to get all buildings so they can specialise to maximum potencial if properly supported.
I agree.
Soviets is all about chosing the right strat for the right map, if you manage to do that you'll be in a very good position no matter the opponent you face.
Ostheer is by far the weakest in any matchup. Their weaponteams melt to pretty much everything and grens are lost without lmgs or g43s. T2 Vehicles are usually hardcountered the moment they arrive, t4 is rarely ever affordable, t3 is lackluster to say the least. It's all about waiting for the Tiger.
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They couldve made T3 more attractive to get, but no, they needed to slightly buff the P4's scatter AND to INCREASE its cost. T4 is still worthless 1v1.
As much as i like playing allies, give the Ostheer some love, so we can see other strats than Tiger rushes.
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I agree.
Soviets is all about chosing the right strat for the right map, if you manage to do that you'll be in a very good position no matter the opponent you face.
Ostheer is by far the weakest in any matchup. Their weaponteams melt to pretty much everything and grens are lost without lmgs or g43s. T2 Vehicles are usually hardcountered the moment they arrive, t4 is rarely ever affordable, t3 is lackluster to say the least. It's all about waiting for the Tiger.
Ostheer is still very good vs Soviets. Against USF it require tons of practice but in the end you'll see USF cannot counter well positioned Paks, vetted mg-42s and snipers unless they have indirect fire. If you don't belive me just check how Cruzz plays.
But yeah, Ostheer T4 could use some love.
On equal skill level it's WFA < EFA atm.
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Ostheer is still very good vs Soviets. Against USF it require tons of practice but in the end you'll see USF cannot counter well positioned Paks, vetted mg-42s and snipers unless they have indirect fire. If you don't belive me just check how Cruzz plays.
But yeah, Ostheer T4 could use some love.
On equal skill level it's WFA < EFA atm.
I do belive you. As Ostheer you really need to "work" hard, any mistakes get severely punished.
That doesn't change the fact that they're the weakest faction atm imo.
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Strongest to weakest:
USF, OKW, Soviet, Wehr
Which is strongest faction right now in 2 vs 2 and above?
Strongest to weakest:
Soviet, OKW, Wehr, USF
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Which is strongest faction right now in 1 vs 1?
Strongest to weakest:
USF, OKW, Soviet, Wehr
Which is strongest faction right now in 2 vs 2 and above?
Strongest to weakest:
Soviet, OKW, Wehr, USF
Waaaaait a minute. How's OKW better than Soviet? Everytime I play or watch games Soviets steamroll OKW.
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OKH + OKW Beats US or Sov
US + Sov beats OKH or OKW
Not prepaed to talk below 3v3 however.
I would hate to play 1v1 as OKW and I've only done so once, and that was by accident
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Soviet>OKW>USF>Ostheer (Ostheer is free win for USF)
2v2
OKW>Soviet>Ostheer>USF (USF Late game sucks balls)
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soviet vs wehr = about the same id say
soviet vs OKW = a walk in the park for soviets
us vs okw = about even
us vs wehr = the german army gets eaten alive
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Sovjets are pretty weak atm, some buffs are needed there and maybe some nerfs on OKW and Wehrmacht !
Sir, are you high?
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If you haven't won under 20~25 mins things can be rough for Sov aswell.
Mostly when you notice that your US mate has nothing left to offer.. happens to me alot if i'm US in late , but funny enough that i've encountered several US players facing the exact same problem.
After 20 mins dejavue effect takes over...lol
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