SU-85 vs Tiger broken
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not damage, damage is fine. Penetration and only vs tiger. It doesn't have issues with anything else.
Guess its more pen or less pen for su85 in general.
Specific penetration for single unit types doesn't exist.
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I don't think any of those units gets penetration or armour bonuses with veterancy, so vet levels don't matter.
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Remember being closer increases penetration as well (although is not always desirable).
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If TensaiOni's quoted values are true, then I see no problem with the situation. It must just have been bad luck.
Remember being closer increases penetration as well (although is not always desirable).
They are true - stats for SU-85's D5T gun and Tiger
In SU-85 case, closing range against a Tiger doesn't really help much (60% vs 66,6%)
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SU-85 pen 200/190/180
SU-85 vs Tiger = 66%/63%/60%
so it hardly made much different at range.
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Use that fuel for T-34s instead.
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Are you guys completly sure that the penetration chance is only a simple division not something like gauss curve or sth like that? That would mean you actually have a 16.7% chance to penetrate tiger with T-70, sounds impossible.
Yes, its flat penetration/armor with taking range into account.
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So primitive... Looks like there is no problem with amount of rng in game but the functions computer uses, that kind of function will never be even close to fair or real. With a straight line you can even penetrate a t-34 with mg-42 with 1,5% chance witch is not so low considering it fires bursts.
Several patches ago I rammed a PZ IV with a T-34, eventually killed the P4. My T-34 was immobolized with its rear facing an MG42. At the end of the game, T-34's had "most damage from: MG42". Turns out the MG42 killed the T-34 Had around 50% HP as well.
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You could face a maxim against a tiger and every bullet fired at the tiger counts as 'damage done' even though it does not penetrate of course.
For this reason, the total 'damage done' by each player can be very skewed by players with many HMGs that fire at armoured targets.
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Several patches ago I rammed a PZ IV with a T-34, eventually killed the P4. My T-34 was immobolized with its rear facing an MG42. At the end of the game, T-34's had "most damage from: MG42". Turns out the MG42 killed the T-34 Had around 50% HP as well.
I'd love to see a picture of this, but I'm not sure this is actually possible. Maybe if the MG 42 kept poppi8ng API Rounds, but I never tried those on a Tank. Regardless, I'm pretty sure that Tanks are completely bulletproof regardless of armour.
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