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The Western Front Armies and CoH2 future

8 Jun 2014, 19:15 PM
#41
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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Jun 2014, 18:28 PMrappit
A far eastern red army could be the allied equivalent of an OKW- an elite army made up of veterans and superior tanks (IS-3, anyone?)


The IS-3 never saw any combat in WW2, they arrived too late to do anything but participate in the victory parades.
8 Jun 2014, 19:56 PM
#42
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The IS-3 never saw any combat in WW2, they arrived too late to do anything but participate in the victory parades.


Actually, it was deployed in the far east and have seen combat, just after Berlin was conquered.
8 Jun 2014, 20:09 PM
#43
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IS-3 was used against Japan. But Japan had nothing to stop the IS-3. Would be very one sided to see IS-3 stomping the IJA.
8 Jun 2014, 22:19 PM
#44
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Actually, it was deployed in the far east and have seen combat, just after Berlin was conquered.


Yeah when I said WW2 I was actually thinking of WW2 in Europe, my bad.
8 Jun 2014, 22:19 PM
#45
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In the movie "My Way" they show Japanese driving suicide trucks into soviet tanks.

I have no idea though if that was actually a thing, or made up for the movie.

Would be kinda fun though.
8 Jun 2014, 22:50 PM
#46
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In the movie "My Way" they show Japanese driving suicide trucks into soviet tanks.

I have no idea though if that was actually a thing, or made up for the movie.

Would be kinda fun though.

i don t know how much fun it is to play an army that only makes suicide.
8 Jun 2014, 22:59 PM
#47
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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Jun 2014, 22:50 PMAffe

i don t know how much fun it is to play an army that only makes suicide.
The answer is very.
8 Jun 2014, 23:05 PM
#48
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Dont want to get totally off topic but, anyone knows if this kind of stuff really happned? Couldnt find anything on it.

8 Jun 2014, 23:09 PM
#49
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^^
there is a reason why every Soviet tank was issued one Submachinegun and DP equipped squad of tank riders...heh.
8 Jun 2014, 23:12 PM
#50
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Dont want to get totally off topic but, anyone knows if this kind of stuff really happned? Couldnt find anything on it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria

soviet losses: 9,726
Japanese losses: 83,737

This battle was very one sided.Not really interesting enough for a game.
8 Jun 2014, 23:15 PM
#51
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You forgot: 640,276 Japanese POWs. that is part of war, too..

Actually I have seen other sources put the figure at close to 1 million. the Japanese Kwangtung armies surrendered to the Soviets.
8 Jun 2014, 23:55 PM
#52
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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Jun 2014, 23:12 PMAffe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria

soviet losses: 9,726
Japanese losses: 83,737

This battle was very one sided.Not really interesting enough for a game.


The comments in the video suggest the movie was actually about the conflicts in 1938 and 1939.
9 Jun 2014, 00:03 AM
#53
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The comments in the video suggest the movie was actually about the conflicts in 1938 and 1939.


Obviously from the large amounts of light tanks armed with dp's, and the lack of t34's.
9 Jun 2014, 02:43 AM
#54
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Dont want to get totally off topic but, anyone knows if this kind of stuff really happned? Couldnt find anything on it.



it's a korean movie... so i think it's safe to say the movie is very stylised(to say it nicely) and probably never happened like that....
9 Jun 2014, 03:08 AM
#55
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Oh no doubt, that movie while really entertaining, wasnt the most realistic thing ever; but since it also featured the D-Day Landing and the Battle for Stalin Grad, and atleast tried to be authentic there ( on the level of Saving Privat Ryan and Enemy at the Gates ) I asumed this third battle scene to be about the same level of believability. If not more since Koreans were actually fighting there.
9 Jun 2014, 03:29 AM
#56
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 09:20 AMJaigen
Why do people never like the Chinese? they had a u huge impact on the Asian front


Are you joking? They are even inferior to IJA, almost no tanks, no airforce, just lots of young teenagers can't even have enough guns and grenade fighting the Japs and forced to use swords.

The most elite (and of course small) Chinese force in WW2 are basically a Chinese army in German uniforms and weapons, with Kar98, MG34, 222 or even Panzer I & II, the Chinese learnt a lot from the Germans, trained under Wehrmarct officer and their relations with Nazi were friendly. They also bought some Soviet and Brits armour. After the US joined in the Pacific theater, they got some US weapons like Sherman.

If this army exist in COH, it is just a big mixture of all forces.
9 Jun 2014, 11:38 AM
#57
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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Jun 2014, 23:12 PMAffe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria

soviet losses: 9,726
Japanese losses: 83,737

This battle was very one sided.Not really interesting enough for a game.


A bit offtopic, but 84k losses figure for the Japanese is from Soviet sources :P

IIRC, Glantz gives a figure of about 20k casualties suffered by the Japanese in that conflict in his book "The Soviet Strategic Offensive in Manchuria, 1945". Though, it only includes Japanese military casualties and excludes Manchukuoan (sp?), civilian etc. casualties.
9 Jun 2014, 11:43 AM
#58
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Oh no doubt, that movie while really entertaining, wasnt the most realistic thing ever; but since it also featured the D-Day Landing and the Battle for Stalin Grad, and atleast tried to be authentic there ( on the level of Saving Privat Ryan and Enemy at the Gates ) I asumed this third battle scene to be about the same level of believability. If not more since Koreans were actually fighting there.


Wait the D-Day landing wasn't authentic at all. It was very, very far from authentic.
9 Jun 2014, 12:02 PM
#59
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The answer is very.

Oh yeah build a suicide bomb truck drive near an IS-2, push the suicide I-Win-Button and IS-2 is destroyed.great you don t need any skills or tactic just ram the IS-2 with suicide truck. Sound like A LOT of fun.
9 Jun 2014, 12:06 PM
#60
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jump backJump back to quoted post9 Jun 2014, 12:02 PMAffe

Oh yeah build a suicide bomb truck drive near an IS-2, push the suicide I-Win-Button and IS-2 is destroyed.great you don t need any skills or tactic just ram the IS-2 with suicide truck. Sound like A LOT of fun.


Come on man, that was obviously a joke :V

I honestly find ramming a scout car with a T-34 hilarious
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