Relic did a good job with patch note accuracy this patch. Here are some (mostly) minor things that were changed outside the patch notes:
Soviet:
120mm mortar precision strike:
Damage reduced from 200 to 80.
Flinch radius reduced from 8 to 4.
This change was applied separately from the 82mm mortar precision strike nerf.
Combat Engineer:
Build time reduced from 24 seconds to 21 seconds.
German:
The hull machine gun on the p4, ostwind, elefant, panther, tiger and tiger ace:
Damage increased from 2 to 4
General:
The armour of all fences has been increased from 3 to 7.
Bricks and posts have had their armour increased from 25 to 40 and health from 110 to 270.
Light vehicles may no longer crush driftwood piles.
*All credit goes to Zed03 from Reddit.
2014-02-18 Patch Analysis (Hidden Changes)
20 Feb 2014, 06:48 AM
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20 Feb 2014, 07:17 AM
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General:
The armour of all fences has been increased from 3 to 7.
Bricks and posts have had their armour increased from 25 to 40 and health from 110 to 270.
If this is true how does it effect the cover gameplay?
20 Feb 2014, 07:24 AM
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I only played a few games, however, it seems they might have tweaked how the StG44 shoots? more in a burst fashion than automatic fire?
Overall dps didn't seem to change, anyone else notice this?
Overall dps didn't seem to change, anyone else notice this?
20 Feb 2014, 07:42 AM
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Thanks, for the Info. Good job!
20 Feb 2014, 08:13 AM
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If this is true how does it effect the cover gameplay?
the cover simply lasts longer...
20 Feb 2014, 08:31 AM
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Damage reduced from 200 to 80.
Flinch radius reduced from 8 to 4.
This only impacts buildings I guess. 80 damage is still enough to kill 40 hp soldiers. But AOE reduce is bad.
Thanks for this hidden changes.
20 Feb 2014, 08:34 AM
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I didn't know about that mortar nerf.
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20 Feb 2014, 08:59 AM
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the notes never specified that only the 82mm got nerfed. it just said "Precision strike now deals the same amount of damage as the main barrage weapon" which does imply it affects both mortars.
its worth noting the flinch radius is NOT the same thing as the AOE. the 120mm precision AOE has not changed
also, build time is linked to unit cost, so reducing the CE cost by 30 mp also reduced its build time by 3 seconds.
its worth noting the flinch radius is NOT the same thing as the AOE. the 120mm precision AOE has not changed
also, build time is linked to unit cost, so reducing the CE cost by 30 mp also reduced its build time by 3 seconds.
20 Feb 2014, 09:18 AM
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Maps
Team balance, decided to withdraw these maps outside automatch. So this is not a bug, but is a feature:
Don river
Pripyat
Pripyat Winter
Rzhev
City 17 Winter
Team balance, decided to withdraw these maps outside automatch. So this is not a bug, but is a feature:
Don river
Pripyat
Pripyat Winter
Rzhev
City 17 Winter
20 Feb 2014, 09:24 AM
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Posts: 471
What is Flinch Radius? Is it the area within which enemy troops hit the deck if a mortar round falls?
20 Feb 2014, 11:52 AM
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Why are there ninja changes in the first place? Sigh. And how does one notice them?
20 Feb 2014, 12:18 PM
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Why are there ninja changes in the first place? Sigh. And how does one notice them?It's most likely things they forgot about or didn't think were all that significant. It's not like they have some sinister plan to sneak in stronger fences while we aren't looking.
20 Feb 2014, 12:19 PM
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I think the precision strike nerf was necessary. On mortar duels like Semoiski this was just annoying. As soon as the soviet mortar hit vet 1 the duel was over. I have yet to see whether the ability to totally wipe German mortars is in fact reduced. The 120mm mortar still has a more powerful grenade, more range and the ability to deliver a precision strike. I´m almost certain it will still outclass German mortars.
20 Feb 2014, 12:40 PM
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The 120mm mortar still has a more powerful grenade, more range and the ability to deliver a precision strike. I´m almost certain it will still outclass German mortars.
And cost 2x more. Now is no reason build 120mm. Two normal 81mm are better deal.
I want to have the same chance, to win for each side.
20 Feb 2014, 12:45 PM
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Posts: 93
Maps
Team balance, decided to withdraw these maps outside automatch. So this is not a bug, but is a feature:
Don river
Pripyat
Pripyat Winter
Rzhev
City 17 Winter
And it only took 6+ months and probably a million vetos to come to this conclusion...
Better late than never I guess...
20 Feb 2014, 13:26 PM
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Posts: 301
I didn't know about that mortar nerf.
Don't you know about PTRD buff? 15 seconds, 4 rifles, Pz4 dead.
20 Feb 2014, 13:50 PM
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And it only took 6+ months and probably a million vetos to come to this conclusion...
Better late than never I guess...
)))))))))))))))))))))))))I didnt have to veto any map on 2v2
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
20 Feb 2014, 14:13 PM
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Don't you know about PTRD buff? 15 seconds, 4 rifles, Pz4 dead.
On rear armor with mark target maybe.
And its PTRS.
PTRD was a different one.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
20 Feb 2014, 14:25 PM
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Posts: 307
...and 120mm mortar was never seen again...
Amen.
Amen.
Vae Victis!
20 Feb 2014, 14:38 PM
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Posts: 177
...and 120mm mortar was never seen again...
Amen.
It's range should return to pre-nerf values after all the changes.
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