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Panther is great in team games, but terrible in 1v1. Or rather, T4 is terrible in 1v1.
I think the cost of teching to T4 should come down. The units in T4 may then be increased in price slightly to compensate.
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How would that fix it? That makes it more expensive in the long run. And by long run I mean if you intend to build more than one unit from it.
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This thread is really full of shit.
People who cannot kill a freaking blitz panther should play the campaign from the beginning, or even the tutorial.
Just some cons and a single SU85 can kill off the suicidial rushing catz, not even mentioned the lol noob friendly AT nade would not microed away like sticky.
Seriously, it is L2P issue.
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You seem to forget that a) panther is essentially a heavy vehicle and b) unlike the Faust at nodes don't engine dmg heavies 99% of the time ... Meaning it is by no means guaranteed to engine DMG a suicidal panther
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Wy is the panther that cheap in concideration to his skill? I mean yesterday i played the germans (i normaly only play sov.) i get a panther then i hit a mine. 80 % of Hp left then an Iosef stalin 2 arrives and met my panther. Then my panther destroyes the Is-2 in not a minute.... HOW CAN IT BE ????? Panther costs only 145 fuel and Is-2 240 !! More than Tiger but the Is-2 is such a kind of rubbish you only can crush cars on a jung yard with this " Heavy Tank " So pls relict or sega who ever make the Is-2 more strong ... sometimes the Is-2 only bounces on the Pather ... not cool. Fuck of grammar !!
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You seem to forget that a) panther is essentially a heavy vehicle and b) unlike the Faust at nodes don't engine dmg heavies 99% of the time ... Meaning it is by no means guaranteed to engine DMG a suicidal panther
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Dont use the IS2 on panthers, the strenght of the IS2 is that it can easily wipe entire squads while the panther is useless against anything but armor and vehicules.
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You seem to forget that a) panther is essentially a heavy vehicle
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A mistake with your panther?
Blitkrieg/Smoke/heavy armor... Well don't panic...
A mistake with your SU-85/ T34-76 or IS-2(!)... Not sure you will keep it alive.
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Arguably it is a heavy tank. Germans designated it as a medium tank in their doctrine. It was only about 2 tons lighter than an IS-2 though.
NO! Go back reading books about WW2 !It is medium tank, as the Wolverine and the t34.
I don´t know what you mean by "handle it with ease". But if those two T-34/76 or M4 with 75mm gun meet that Panther frontally, they are fucked. Panthers had superb frontal armor. The sides were a weakpoint, but that´s why crews tried to keep a distance to the enemy. In my opinion this is totally wrong depicted in the game. The front armor of the Panther seems meh at best and lolrushing your Panther into the enemy is common.
The Panther was the fastest tank in the war, also a brilliant Anti Tank weapon but clearly 2 T-34/76 or 2 Shermans (75mm one)(at short range!*) could handle it with ease...wich is not the case in this game ; The panther with its AWESOME Frontal armor is really hard to take down.
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NO! Go back reading books about WW2 !It is medium tank, as the Wolverine and the t34.
No, panther is also good against infantry thanks his mg42, frontal gun and Blitkrieg ("f**k the history" ability)... wich make your panther faster than V1, making simple to crush infantry...
After reading lot of books about WW2, especially Normandy battle (I'm french and i live in Normandy =D), this game lakes historical truth. The Panther was the fastest tank in the war, also a brilliant Anti Tank weapon but clearly 2 T-34/76 or 2 Shermans (75mm one)(at short range!*) could handle it with ease...wich is not the case in this game ; The panther with its AWESOME Frontal armor is really hard to take down.
A mistake with your panther?
Blitkrieg/Smoke/heavy armor... Well don't panic...
A mistake with your SU-85/ T34-76 or IS-2(!)... Not sure you will keep it alive.
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I don´t know what you mean by "handle it with ease". But if those two T-34/76 or M4 with 75mm gun meet that Panther frontally, they are fucked. Panthers had superb frontal armor. The sides were a weakpoint, but that´s why crews tried to keep a distance to the enemy. In my opinion this is totally wrong depicted in the game. The front armor of the Panther seems meh at best and lolrushing your Panther into the enemy is common.
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Panthers have 270 frontal armor, which is a bit lower than the Tiger's 300. It deflects a lot of hits.
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just to elaborate on that a bit:
T34/76 has a 29.6% chance to penetrate the front
T34/85 has a 44.4% chance to penetrate the front
SU-76 has a 34.4% chance to penetrate the front
SU-85 has a 62.9% chance to penetrate the front
ZiS3 has a 62.9% chance to penetrate the front
Ram has a 59.3% chance to work when hit in the front.
The panther is a great unit, you dont see them in 1v1s that much for economic reasons rather than performance.
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