Since this night no one need skill anymore since you only need some B4 and cons with at package and all is done to bomb the enemy back into the stone age.
And yeah... Let's nerf hard axis arty... So they don't even have a valid counter anymore.what was the idea?
Loom stream. They laugh their ass of when using b4.
The devs did it again... Buffed B4 into the heaven
16 Jun 2021, 22:36 PM
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16 Jun 2021, 22:38 PM
#2
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Just use counter barrage for braindead counter.... OH WAIT, HAHAHA.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
16 Jun 2021, 22:55 PM
#3
Posts: 486
IS IT CANCER? It looks cancery, but a lot less than before suppression was added. The meme cannon continues. Now get recon and off map it like the rest of us.
16 Jun 2021, 23:03 PM
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Posts: 956
Looked pretty nasty in a 3v3 game I just had, but I was on the opposite side of the map (town) on Lienne. Breathing in AT cons in the town after Puma made LV play suicide. Musta been naded about 7 times. No chance in hell of getting to the B-4 from that side. Saw at least one tank taken out in mid by the B-4. Old CB LEFH got nothing on this thing I suspect.
For Italy! We have outfoxed the enemy once more!
16 Jun 2021, 23:08 PM
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Snip
Did its suppression work? Or did it just murder the infantry?
16 Jun 2021, 23:13 PM
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Did its suppression work? Or did it just murder the infantry?
Didn't see, only a vehicle exploding after a shell. If there was any inf, they were not visible in the black smoke. Was breathing AT nades and tangling with the guy on left too much to look over much. Very noisy though, kept wondering if I was next.
For Italy! We have outfoxed the enemy once more!
17 Jun 2021, 00:03 AM
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Posts: 479
Yeah they managed to buff a unit they were trying to nerf. FailFish
17 Jun 2021, 00:10 AM
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Posts: 1958
Yeah they managed to buff a unit they were trying to nerf. FailFish
No, they were trying to change it into something that deals more reliable damage. It used to be so unreliable that it was good only for meme games.
17 Jun 2021, 00:22 AM
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Posts: 479
No, they were trying to change it into something that deals more reliable damage. It used to be so unreliable that it was good only for meme games.
I know but they were still trying to nerf the unit by making it less of a nuker and more of a howitzer but instead basically just made it a much better ML-20. At least previously the ML-20 and B4 had their own roles. Now the B4 will probably just overshadow the ML-20.
17 Jun 2021, 00:34 AM
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Saw this coming from a mile away. Possibly another JLI scenario from the balance team. Will wait and see how it plays out though.
While on the topic of the B4 it should have simply been a Pak 43 clone with Vet 1 ability to allow it to shoot its 1 big shot occasionally (with an ammo cost of course)
Instead they made it into an ML-20 that doesn't tickle things. This is what happens then they don't listen to feedback and instead push their own agendas from their own little group.
While on the topic of the B4 it should have simply been a Pak 43 clone with Vet 1 ability to allow it to shoot its 1 big shot occasionally (with an ammo cost of course)
Instead they made it into an ML-20 that doesn't tickle things. This is what happens then they don't listen to feedback and instead push their own agendas from their own little group.
17 Jun 2021, 00:54 AM
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They did listen to feedback. My feedback best i can tell. They didnt have good options. B-4 was almost homogenized into another ML/20, and then a weapon to surpass Metal Gear. I suggested 4 options, stay AT meme howi, covert to Pak43, make bigger ML/20, or.... add suppression while still hitting hard. They went for suppression, as its the only arty besides werfer that does that, giving it a unique vibe. It no longer lottos your P4s to death. Last night I hit the same Tiger 3 times with a B4, so it spent over half the game in repairs. Now it softens fortified positions before the big push, LITERALLY its IRL job.
Its so pretty.
Its so pretty.
17 Jun 2021, 01:12 AM
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Posts: 1958
Saw this coming from a mile away. Possibly another JLI scenario from the balance team. Will wait and see how it plays out though.
While on the topic of the B4 it should have simply been a Pak 43 clone with Vet 1 ability to allow it to shoot its 1 big shot occasionally (with an ammo cost of course)
Instead they made it into an ML-20 that doesn't tickle things. This is what happens then they don't listen to feedback and instead push their own agendas from their own little group.
There were threads with multiple hundreds of posts requesting that they do something about the B4, including a long one where a lot of people wanted it in Tank Hunters. This wasn't an agenda from their "own little group", it was what a bunch of people were lobbying them to do. It wasn't any different when a group of people lobbied them to make the Panzerfusiliers CP0 and buff them to be similar to volks.
As for it "overshadowing" the ML20, the ML20 is "overshadowed" hard by the LEFH. The AOE seems about the same but the fewer shells means the LEFH vets faster and normally wins an arty duel. I don't think this patch will change that, other than eliminating the auto-win from counter battery.
17 Jun 2021, 01:21 AM
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Posts: 1515
I've just used the B4. Still a meme gun, only more reliable. I don't think anyone can claim it as OP or UP just yet. Feels better though. Sure no more memes from Skippy but still, a great area denial tool. Much, much more reliable than it used to be.
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17 Jun 2021, 05:48 AM
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Posts: 9
Just got absolutely obliterated by the B4 in a 4v4. We were doing well in the early game but once the B4 was out it was a slow and agonizing bleed of squads and manpower. Made it impossible to keep a forward reinforce point or OKW truck alive. None of us had a large off map call in like a stuka bomb though because we were unprepared by how strong the B4 was. I think something definitely needs to be done to nerf it, as it stands its just an ML20 that shoots nukes. Maybe turn it into an anti tank weapon?
17 Jun 2021, 05:53 AM
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Posts: 486
Sounds like playing vs lefh without call-ins. Get call-ins. A swath of good commanders still have some form of snipe, Railroad, Frag Bombs, 152mm barrage.
OKW has a nondoc recon plane, OST has a variety of commanders with Recon.
OKW has a nondoc recon plane, OST has a variety of commanders with Recon.
17 Jun 2021, 06:04 AM
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17 Jun 2021, 06:39 AM
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Krama come around, huh 
17 Jun 2021, 07:21 AM
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There was so many way to make it not op:
Some examples:
- Give it a ammo price per use
- give it a huge popcap... Or u can have 6 or 7 and make it only 1 or 2 buildable
- give it a much longer shooting cd
- nerf the dmg
- give it something like an indicator where the shells land... Like red flares or give it a loud sound when shooting.
Or or or..
Some examples:
- Give it a ammo price per use
- give it a huge popcap... Or u can have 6 or 7 and make it only 1 or 2 buildable
- give it a much longer shooting cd
- nerf the dmg
- give it something like an indicator where the shells land... Like red flares or give it a loud sound when shooting.
Or or or..
17 Jun 2021, 07:30 AM
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There was so many way to make it not op:
Some examples:
- Give it a ammo price per use
Hahahahahaha.
- give it a huge popcap... Or u can have 6 or 7 and make it only 1 or 2 buildable
Why? It does much less overall damage then ML-20 potentially, so by your logic, it should get huge popcap DECREASE, so you can get more.
- give it a much longer shooting cd
You mean like exactly what they did?
- nerf the dmg
You mean like exactly what they did?
- give it something like an indicator where the shells land... Like red flares or give it a loud sound when shooting.
Which indirect fire unit does that?
You're clueless so much it hurts.
The goal was to BUFF it, because it was irrelevant RNG meme unit.
It was made theoretically into more reliable one, so it can be expected for it to hit something.
Its still much weaker then ML-20 and if its wiping your whole armies, ML-20 would do exactly the same thing, but better.
Stop camping and blobbing.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
17 Jun 2021, 07:55 AM
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Willy Pete: @Rosbone not dead yet. when that happens the font will switch to Papyrus 
02 Apr 2025, 00:16 AM
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aerafield: yeah I already prepared my "Can't believe there's comic mode for the 10 daily visitors even on this April 1st" 
01 Apr 2025, 20:29 PM
01 Apr 2025, 20:29 PM
Lady Xenarra: Does anyone else think that USF needs buffs? It feels like they’re on life support sometimes
01 Apr 2025, 02:36 AM
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Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy 
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. 
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24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
.24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him.
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please.
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned.
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying...
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
OKSpitfire: You can rage as often as you like btw, you usually manage to make it pretty funny.
12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me.
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM
06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM
aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem?
06 Mar 2025, 13:33 PM
06 Mar 2025, 13:33 PM
Lady Xenarra: I think post-2.0 Whizbang buffs, the price is too low esp since the Stuka got nerfed in cost too. Speaking of which, how exactly is one supposed to successfully dive this Sherman in disguise? Med tank spam running into SSFs?
06 Mar 2025, 12:13 PM
06 Mar 2025, 12:13 PM
OKSpitfire: A powerful, doctrinal unit that outperforms stock stuff? Colour me shocked! 
06 Mar 2025, 10:49 AM
06 Mar 2025, 10:49 AM
Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive. 
05 Mar 2025, 20:27 PM
05 Mar 2025, 20:27 PM
Rosbone: It is also hard to expect Relic to help Coh2 when they cant even make working menus in Coh3 yet, 2 years after release and at full price+ for DLCs. Thats like asking a fish to do calculus.
04 Mar 2025, 02:58 AM
04 Mar 2025, 02:58 AM
Rosbone: But this last patch has made good progress for grabbing players. All we can hope is Coh3 gets to Coh2s quality level before everyone abandons the franchise. Its Relic so they will completely f*%k it up as usual. But its a hope/cope.
04 Mar 2025, 02:55 AM
04 Mar 2025, 02:55 AM
Rosbone: Relic wants Coh2 to fail so players will migrate to Coh3. It is hard to blame them since Coh3 sucks so bad. It needs all the help it can get.
04 Mar 2025, 02:53 AM
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