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Comparing COMET and PANTHER

11 Apr 2021, 11:09 AM
#1
avatar of Bakairu

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Both are late game tanks and is considered close to ending games or gaining superiority but when you compare the performance of these two the panther is just a CLOWN. Comet has a handful of useful abilities that just come at VET 0 and even more abilities getting to vet 1 gaining the ability to throw a grenade which is a obnoxius design and think why it has ever existed in british tanks. Panther is balanced but Comet is also??? Hmmm???
11 Apr 2021, 11:11 AM
#2
avatar of Katitof

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Its almost as one is geared towards countering vehicles and the other is a generalist tank supposed to fill more then 1 niche role, eh?
11 Apr 2021, 11:37 AM
#3
avatar of adamírcz

Posts: 956

I guess Comet really should be a bit more expensive, fuel wise

Panther is kinda hard to judge, its extremely good at shutting down mediums, but heavily medium-focused plays are off-meta, which kinda limits it

Having multiple abilities in exchange for raw power is pretty good design, and if anything should be more wisespread among other factions

If he is in range to throw the nade, he is in range to get fausted
11 Apr 2021, 11:42 AM
#4
avatar of Latch

Posts: 773

If the Panther and the Comet are to perform the exact same role, then you open up a whole can of worms such as UKF should have access to mobile arty no doc, snares on mainline infantry so on and so forth.
11 Apr 2021, 12:00 PM
#5
avatar of Unit G17

Posts: 498

Penetration!
The comet is indeed great at being a generalist, but its pretty bad compared to the panther when it comes to penetrating heavier armor, such as the panther's. Playing enough with both tanks one tends to notice the tendency of bounces.
(also, panther can do some AA too, as UKF you have to build a separate, 10 pop tank just to have any AA).
11 Apr 2021, 12:31 PM
#6
avatar of Kurobane

Posts: 658

Comet is not even that good, especially after the most recent nerfs it has been hit with. Prior to the nerfs it was a viable alternative to the Churchill. Really no point in using it now when the Churchill and the faster repair speed are far more useful.

Also the British don't really need the Comet to be a Generalist tank. They have plenty of Anti-Infantry Options. They need the Comet to be strictly anti-tank as a replacement/alternative to the Firefly because the Firefly is lackluster vs Su-85 and Jackson.


11 Apr 2021, 12:35 PM
#7
avatar of LMAO

Posts: 163

Delete ukf and we good or be a 1v1 player and you will eventually don't see the disgusting faction anymore
also facing comet blobs in team games used to be alot worse basically a better p4 that can go toe to toe against panthers and also good vs infantry.
11 Apr 2021, 12:37 PM
#8
avatar of Vipper

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Penetration!
The comet is indeed great at being a generalist, but its pretty bad compared to the panther when it comes to penetrating heavier armor, such as the panther's. Playing enough with both tanks one tends to notice the tendency of bounces.
(also, panther can do some AA too, as UKF you have to build a separate, 10 pop tank just to have any AA).

The penetration value of Comet are not "pretty bad".

Comet although a Tank has penetration value close to JPIV and has 65%, 73%, 81% chance to penetrate a Panther frontally.

Panther has higher penetration values because it is anti vehicle and thus it gun little AI.

The unit server different roles.
11 Apr 2021, 12:47 PM
#9
avatar of Tygrys

Posts: 103

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Apr 2021, 11:42 AMLatch
UKF should have access to mobile arty no doc


Because they should. Mortar pit is only good against trash players, everyone else with half a functioning brain cell will erase it a minute after it fired it's first shot.
11 Apr 2021, 12:49 PM
#10
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Posts: 163

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Apr 2021, 12:47 PMTygrys


Because they should. Mortar pit is only good against trash players, everyone else with half a functioning brain cell will erase it a minute after it fired it's first shot.

I'll take removing mortar pit and give them generic mortar at any day
11 Apr 2021, 13:10 PM
#11
avatar of GoforGiantsV3

Posts: 87

Comet have abilities. Panther have powers.

Panther has higher hp(960) than comet(80). And almost same armor at V2.(286/99)

Comet's main gun range is 45.
Panther's main gun range is 50.

And Panther's main gun penetration(260/240/220) penetrates all Allies medium tanks and Tank destroyers (excpet of comet) 100% at all range.
But comet's penetration is 210/190/170. Sometimes even Veteran Panzer 4(234/117)or Jagdpanzer 4(230/80) can defend its shells.
How'bout StuG? 140/70 armor becomes 182/91 at V2.

Comets have Skills. But Panthers have Powers.
So Panther is not very inferior than Comet. Both have different strong points anout its points. Ok?
11 Apr 2021, 15:24 PM
#12
avatar of thedarkarmadillo

Posts: 5279

As has already been said, they are different tanks filling different roles in different armies. They have similarities but they are not the same.
The comet is an overgrown cromwell with a few abilities to boot. Ultimately however they perform the same task
The Panther and the p4 do not overlap nearly to the same extent.
Panthers do something different entirely
11 Apr 2021, 17:02 PM
#13
avatar of blvckdream

Posts: 2458 | Subs: 1

The nerfed Comet is not even that good. It has become quite mediocre against infantry from my experience. That being said, it was a bit OP before and the balance team did a pretty good job with the slight, but still somewhat impactful nerfs.
11 Apr 2021, 18:58 PM
#14
avatar of Grumpy

Posts: 1954

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Apr 2021, 11:09 AMBakairu
Both are late game tanks and is considered close to ending games or gaining superiority but when you compare the performance of these two the panther is just a CLOWN. Comet has a handful of useful abilities that just come at VET 0 and even more abilities getting to vet 1 gaining the ability to throw a grenade which is a obnoxius design and think why it has ever existed in british tanks. Panther is balanced but Comet is also??? Hmmm???


The Panther's performance is a "CLOWN" compared to the Comet? I use both regularly, and think it's the opposite. The Comet misses and bounces a lot compared to the Panther. Does it have more abilities? Yes, but it's a lot more frustrating to use. I don't think either of them are unbalanced right now, they just have different jobs to do.
12 Apr 2021, 02:25 AM
#15
avatar of LSDuffy

Posts: 117

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Apr 2021, 11:11 AMKatitof
Its almost as one is geared towards countering vehicles and the other is a generalist tank supposed to fill more then 1 niche role, eh?


You sure is smart boss
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