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After watching Tighdrope's vid I fully agree that the G43 upgrade should be earlier available. Right you can upgrade to Lmg42 often sooner than to g43.
Suggestion:
- CP requirements for g43 reduced to Cp1 (from 2)
- Mun cost back to 45 ammo (from 60 now)
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I am not sure why the mod team is spending so much resources on the G43 (with no satisfactory result).
Simply merge Jaeger Light Infantry Upgrade with Jaeger Command Squad is one unit available in CP and reduce the number of G43 to 2.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I am not sure why the mod team is spending so much resources on the G43 (with no satisfactory result).
Simply merge Jaeger Light Infantry Upgrade with Jaeger Command Squad is one unit available in CP and reduce the number of G43 to 2.
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Changing three values is significantly less work than what you suggested.
Also no offense, but it would really help you get your points across if you'd take the time to re-read your sentences before posting. You're missing words very often and then nobody knows what you mean. "Available in CP" - what?
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To.... get a satisfactory result for underused upgrade.... like with ppsh right now, penal ptrs earlier and so on....
Still with limit of 1 or have you learned absolutely nothing from pre nerf VSL?
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Would replacing the 2x gren G43 with 1x JLI G43 (perhaps a weaker version with a lower critical treshold %) be overkill? The idea is that these G43 grenadiers would be most effective if used together with an other, lmg grenadier squad while on their own they would be worse than an lmg squad. Similar to how pathfinders and lmg paratroopers can work together for the highest efficiency.
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How many times has the MOD team tinkered around with G43 now?
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One time? In the past 3+ years the only thing that got adjusted about the Jaeger Light Infantry upgrade was the DPS for the PGren G43s, and they are good now.
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One time? In the past 3+ years the only thing that got adjusted about the Jaeger Light Infantry upgrade was the DPS for the PGren G43s, and they are good now.
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Why is the LeFH only in 2 doctrines now?
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It might be too strong. OSTheer already have a sniper, and them getting JLI for 240MP is probably a recipe for disaster.
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Why is the LeFH only in 2 doctrines now?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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True.
Gren G43s are just in a weird position where their advantages are really just temporary and eventually allied infantry tend to outmatch them. I mean back when cons had no 7th man upgrade, sure, I used them all the times, but now Tightrope's video shows that even there they get matched pretty evenly... in a best case scenario for grens.
On the other hand PG G43s are ridiculously strong, like they do almost as much dps as lmg grens at long range.
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SEPTEMBER 2019
NEW COMMANDER UPDATE - JUNE 14TH 2019
MARCH 28th
December 12th 2018
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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March 28th... 2017, come on. In 2019 the price was temporarily adjusted from one patch to the next while figuring out the values for the DPS improvement, so you can scrap those. Storms just received an update to match PGren standard (3x G43) after having their STG 44s replaced by MP 40s. In summary, the only major change to the Jaeger Light Infantry upgrade in over 3 years was the DPS buff for the PGren variant.
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I agree, the Gren G43 upgrade isnt really fitting for the unit, they're simply not a close-range squad, and they shouldnt need to be: That's what Pgrens are for. I'd agree that a JLI-like upgrade would be a better fit... but I'm just not sure it would be balanced in the context of OST.
Pgrens with G43s really do do an awful lot of damage at long (max) range, vet3 is ~20.25 vs LMG grens at vet3 with 23.61, assuming the seralia numbers are accurate. Pgrens then have the further benefit of keeping most of their DPS on the move, and being monstrous close up, in comparison to the LMG grens. Very strange.
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