[Winter Balance Update] General Discussion

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 20:34 PMKatitof

Probably, but "vipper doesn't like how it is now" isn't exactly a valid reason to even start considering the option and literally no one ever complained about their default weapons being too strong or weak.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2020, 21:43 PMJon2020

I'm new to these forums, and admittedly don't have a ton of time to read every single post, but I have already seen the way that conversations are routinely driven by fanboys opposing any positive changes that could help improve their least favorite faction's competitiveness in team games. Can't we do better than this as a community, for the sake of more-interesting gameplay?

The fact that we have certain factions, commanders, and units getting virtually no use in competitive matches is driving people to play with the same of the aforementioned again and again. Good players won't deviate far from them if they have any real desire to win matches. Frankly, it makes the game boring and less enjoyable to play. Can we do a statistical analysis of the commanders, abilities, units, etc. which are used least often, and propose some changes to them to bring them into relevancy? I'm proposing this for *all* factions, not just those factions I play (or like) the most. Or is this underway already?

Main Gun Criticals
While main gun criticals are an issue in competitive play, we do not want to remove this feature entirely from Company of Heroes as these moments can make for intense moments for the non-competitive side of play. Instead, we are reducing the chance for the Main Gun critical to happen primarily during medium tank engagements when under attack from sources that deal 160 damage.
- Main Gun Critical now has a chance to trigger at 20% rather than 25%

Panzerfausts
To avoid accidental mis-clicks on ambient structures which the Panzerfaust does barely any damage against, panzerfausts will no longer be able to target them.
- Panzerfausts can no longer target ambient structures

Puma and Sniper Critical/Aimed Shot
- Critical against Assault guns now inflicts a -75% speed and rotation debuff for 5 seconds and disables the weapon rather than slowing the unit to a complete halt and cancelling orders until the debuff wears off.
- SU-76 will no longer receive engine damage from the ability in addition to being stunned.

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2020, 07:43 AMVipper

A good change but sniper shot should not snare light vehicles since they should act a counter to sniper.

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2020, 07:17 AMSander93

V3 General Changes

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2020, 14:50 PMPip

I'd still have preferred MGC to have been removed entirely, but reducing the chance is... a step in the right direction.

Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2020, 11:16 AMgeneral_gawain

Can we fix decap point ability of Stuka Dive bomber and uncounterable sight tool of OKW artillery flares at this patch please?

Stuka dive bomber - decap point: Because of this ability there is no way for an allied 4vs4 team to stop Close the Pocket on poorly desigend maps like Redball/Whiteball even if they know the axis team can pull it off. On axis side you have commander abilities for uncounterable sight, for destruction of caches and for instant decapping of points. We tried it ourselves as an axis team multiple times, it costs a lot of ammunition, but it is always a cheesy game changer that will win the game.

caches are they key here. ive had the pocket closed in 4s. it hurts like hell but it is preventable. dont leave your cut off free to take and itll be fine. that said, delaying the rain of death a bit so the player has time to recap a bit before everything is deletd might be nice. have the ability ramp up a bit more

Artillery Flares: Can be used with the tactic above. It is the only uncounterable ability in the game that gives constant sight at any given point of the map. Especially since a lot of attack planes and offmap artillery abilities need sight to be efficient it is the perfect addition in a multiplayer game. Recon should be always counterable. Exchange this ability with recon plane please (you should rework artillery flares at UKF Royal Artillery Regiment at some point too, sending planes instead of flares, but the ability is less of a problem).

iirc its being looked at

Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2020, 16:35 PMthedarkarmadillo

caches are they key here. ive had the pocket closed in 4s. it hurts like hell but it is preventable. dont leave your cut off free to take and itll be fine. that said, delaying the rain of death a bit so the player has time to recap a bit before everything is deletd might be nice. have the ability ramp up a bit more

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 20:13 PMthedarkarmadillo

thats very much the role of pathfinders though.... its a huge bonus and it shouldn't be available on 4 units you get for free....

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 13:54 PMVipper

They simply should not start with Paras Carbines...

Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2020, 02:19 AMzerocoh

maybe springfield rifles, with a dps curve similar to grens K98? I believe the weapon models already exist in the game.

also, I will double down on the beacon availability again, being only on the pathfinder is stupid since it's a fairly pricy unit and trying to drop anything on the field without a beacon is borderline suicide.

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 20:30 PMVipper

I am pretty sure that is not a good idea, I am also pretty sure that one can create a "new" weapon profile the fits the needs of Pathfinder better.

Or one can give them a garrand and make them cheaper.

Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2020, 02:19 AMzerocoh

maybe springfield rifles, with a dps curve similar to grens K98? I believe the weapon models already exist in the game.