Medic heal on Grens

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2020, 13:03 PMRollingStone

Let's just for second compare tommies medkits and grens medkits.

UKF heals are:
- one click, and thats it.
- 30 muni for upgrade, ussage is unlimited by anything
- aura heal on the move.

Grens heal is:
- Point-and-click, then wait for ~5 sec, and then healing starts
- Only one squad gets healed, no AoE effects
- 15 muni per use.
- Rather long cooldown.
If I am correct, they are simular in ammount and speed of healing, feel free to prove me wrong.

While tommies medkits are forcing player to blob up on their way from base, creating those unholy double bren blobs, Werh medkits are more surgical and precise.

My proposition for changes would be - either remove/reduce the cooldown, or reduce the price just a bit - 10 munis for full heal is enough IMO. No AoE heals, no new abilities, grens with combined arms are fine.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2020, 13:08 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Disagree, UKF doesn’t have a 251 and doesn’t have a base bunker to heal.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2020, 13:08 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Their infantry play is also static without stock Pgrens so they get better field healing to compensate.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2020, 13:08 PMT.R. Stormjäger

My original suggestion to buff Ostheer was to make all medkits free once T2 or T3 or T4 was up, so that you could then use them to improve your overall field presence.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2020, 13:16 PMRollingStone

Well, they do have medics now. Almost the same price as medbunker, AND you can move them to the frontline for extra AOE-heals. Medbunker just sits there and heals you for 60 munition throughout the match.


Over last 2-3 patches they got some non-doc tools to by-pass that - WASP armor buff, THAT BLOODY MOVE ACCURACY INCREASE, and Capitan Price himself. And some doctrinal stuff too - asssections.


My guess would be some sort of interchangeble abilities, like - build t3 and get free medkits, build t4 and get small discounts when reinforcing. You can get only one, and you can choose one, when t3 or t4 is built.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2020, 10:13 AMMr Carmine

Blob healing regardless of faction unless static should be removed drom the game. Okw and ukf unfairly benefit from this.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2020, 21:15 PMdistrofio

Agreed.
If OKW healing crates instead of aura heal, healed the squad that picks up the medkits. It could be an easy fix. As a tradeoff the squad could be healed as long as it is out of combat. Price might need adjustments.

As for UKF, IMO the solution is related to the new medic squad.

Its a bit offtopic but a worthy point to make.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2020, 21:15 PMdistrofio

Agreed.
If OKW healing crates instead of aura heal, healed the squad that picks up the medkits. It could be an easy fix. As a tradeoff the squad could be healed as long as it is out of combat. Price might need adjustments.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2020, 07:19 AMNoctyrneSAGA

Isn't this literally how it worked before it was reworked to how it is now because of an unfixable bug?

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2020, 09:55 AMMMX

i still like the old implementation better though, do you have any info on what kind of bug it caused by chance?

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2020, 10:07 AMSander93

You could select multiple squads at once and click on the med crates, and they'd take only one crate but every squad got healed up.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2020, 10:07 AMSander93

You could select multiple squads at once and click on the med crates, and then every squad got the healing while only one crate was used up.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2020, 10:28 AMJibberJabberJobber

You can still do that if you bunch up every squad and press halt instantly after right-clicking. That way every squad heals themselves. If you're slightly too slow though, you'Il use up all your kits instantly.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2020, 16:28 PMKieselberg

So you are telling me, that one medic crate isnt supposed to heal a bunch of squads at the same time?

I always thought it was intentional. 45muni for 3 loads of healing seems overpriced for a faction that has to tech into its own medics.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2020, 13:14 PMthedarkarmadillo

What about knocking 5mu off per battle phase? Then late game they are as accessible as can be and help make up for all the shit that happens late game? Can always be adjusted from there if it turns out too much.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2020, 20:02 PMSkysTheLimit

Really like this idea, don't see any downsides. It would be nice if the BPs provided more things directly, rather than just being a stepping stone for tech

Like the pgren to BP1 change was one of the best Ost has ever gotten imo

Jump back to quoted post12 May 2020, 10:19 AMachpawel

Med heal could work on fallen comrades for a manpower (model killed value) not munitions cost. If you see a dead model (be it yours or maybe even enemy's) you could add it back into a less than full model squad (even under fire maybe). That would be a) unique b) make more sense than another muni sink.

Jump back to quoted post12 May 2020, 10:36 AMKatitof

I'm unsure if its more stupid or overpowered idea.
Ability is fine, deal with it.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2020, 10:07 AMSander93

You could select multiple squads at once and click on the med crates, and then every squad got the healing while only one crate was used up.