What's wrong with UKF?

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 15:07 PMSander93

All other factions have stock light AI vehicles to fight against CQC units in the early mid game. Soviets have stock flamethrowers, the M3 and Penals to ward off CQC units. OKW has Sturmpioneers and STG 44 Volks, Ostheer has stock flamethrowers and PGrens. USF has close to mid range orientated mainline infantry.

The UKF are the only ones who can consistently get overrun by CQC units (most notably on urban or other CQC orientated maps) because they have nothing in their stock arsenal to efficiently stop CQC units. The Universal Carrier can work, but doesn't on most CQC maps. The AEC doesn't deal enough AI damage.

Now since we can't magically conjure up a new AI vehicle, and since we do not want to buff Royal Engineers for obvious reasons, they will get the Assault Officer to help defend Infantry Sections from getting overrun by CQC units.

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 15:07 PMSander93

All other factions have stock light AI vehicles to fight against CQC units in the early mid game. Soviets have stock flamethrowers, the M3 and Penals to ward off CQC units. OKW has Sturmpioneers and STG 44 Volks, Ostheer has stock flamethrowers and PGrens. USF has close to mid range orientated mainline infantry.

The UKF are the only ones who can consistently get overrun by CQC units (most notably on urban or other CQC orientated maps) because they have nothing in their stock arsenal to efficiently stop CQC units. The Universal Carrier can work, but doesn't on most CQC maps. The AEC doesn't deal enough AI damage.

Now since we can't magically conjure up a new AI vehicle, and since we do not want to buff Royal Engineers or the AEC for obvious reasons, they will get the Assault Officer to help defend Infantry Sections from getting overrun by CQC units.

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 08:09 AMRiley

Why were the British called OP recently, and now everyone agrees that this is a useless faction? (Except ardent fans of the axis, because of which the faction nerfs went)

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 11:43 AMButcher

The thing wrong with Brits is their design as a whole.
Emplacements were cancer. Now with the nerfs you can't really use them though the cancer mortar pit remains a problem on some maps (crossing in the woods, Charkow).

The concept of a high HP, high armor vehicle (Churchill) is shit. Especially when there is no non doc Axis high range, high pen td. I consider 50 range insufficient for that.

Cover bonus on mainline infantry was a mistake. Hard to balance. You want to attack with your inf, not camp in cover.

A t0 heavy vehicle is frustrating to play against aswell.

Could continue this rant but long story short Brits will always be annoying (either for the user or the opponent) and not fit the game.

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 18:03 PMthekingsown10

The REAL reason is people were so used to playing an overpowered faction... and when it gets more back in line they complain because their cheese strat with op units and abilities doesn't work as well anymore.

I am a proud Brit myself but the faction in this game was nothing but cancer ever since day 1. The infantry section was flat out of control for a long time .

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 18:03 PMthekingsown10

The REAL reason is people were so used to playing an overpowered faction... and when it gets more back in line they complain because their cheese strat with op units and abilities doesn't work as well anymore.

I am a proud Brit myself but the faction in this game was nothing but cancer ever since day 1. The infantry section was flat out of control for a long time .

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 18:03 PMthekingsown10

The REAL reason is people were so used to playing an overpowered faction... and when it gets more back in line they complain because their cheese strat with op units and abilities doesn't work as well anymore.

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 18:32 PMachpawel

My personal belief is that creating lots of UK units relic basically developed ostheer with 5 men squads, self-sufficient mgs, reliable light vehicle and lategame sturdy tanks. Sort of ostheer dream at the moment it was created (plus emplacements)

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 21:20 PMKiwiBirb

Was adding the Valentine stock to UKF ever considered?

To me this seems like the best option

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 21:20 PMKiwiBirb

Was adding the Valentine stock to UKF ever considered?

To me this seems like the best option

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 21:20 PMKiwiBirb

Was adding the Valentine stock to UKF ever considered?

To me this seems like the best option

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2020, 03:15 AMblancat

UKF has smaller unit pools than other factions because of the presence of emblacement.

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2020, 03:24 AMdistrofio

This premise is false to begin with. Or at least incomplete
PD: Bolster says Hi.

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2020, 03:24 AMdistrofio

This premise is false to begin with. Or at least incomplete
PD: Bolster says Hi.

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2020, 14:00 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Not to defend Ullumulu but these are not all weaknesses.

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2020, 05:20 AMSuperHansFan

By unit pool he means selection of different units. This is especially noticeable with infantry/team weapons. E.g they don't have a mortar in their unit pool because an emplacement was supposed to do that job.

Bolster is not a unit.