ISU-152 HE shell range should be reduced?

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While the people focusing on heavy tanks aoe,there is nothing about ISU-152,eveyone knows that thing 1 shotting everything and you have to retreat after every 1 shot otherwise your squad get wiped.Most of the AI tanks are nerfed like Brumbar but somehow not that one.

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ISU was addressed years ago.
Only L2P is left.

22 Mar 2020, 11:34 AMroot47

Most of the AI tanks are nerfed like Brumbar but somehow not that one.

Which most tanks you're speaking off?
Are there any other 260 fuel AI focused tanks?
Could you name them?
Also.... a line before you've described what brummbar does - for half the cost and as stock unit.

25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

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ISU is indeed getting away with being a wiping machine for no apparent reason. Either range or AOE nerf are necessary.

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ISU and KV-2 are not AI vehicles since both can easily damage vehicles also.

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So.. make it a shit version of the KV-2?

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You have Elephant/Jagdtiger in teamgames. L2P

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22 Mar 2020, 13:13 PMT.R. Stormjäger

You have Elephant/Jagdtiger in teamgames. L2P

Eleaphant and jagtiger are useless agaisnt soviets,there are many effective combo in soviets to destroy heavy vehicles easly.Decent soviet players know how to deal with heavies.

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22 Mar 2020, 13:50 PMroot47

Decent soviet players know how to deal with heavies.

Decent axis players know how to deal with ISU

25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

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22 Mar 2020, 13:54 PMKatitof

Decent axis players know how to deal with ISU

Seriously Mr.Knowseverything i am surprised that you are still not in a patch team even with that all knowledge about coh.You dont have to write sth for every subject in forum.Your comments are not helpful at all.

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22 Mar 2020, 14:50 PMroot47

Seriously Mr.Knowseverything i am surprised that you are still not in a patch team even with that all knowledge about coh.You dont have to write sth for every subject in forum.Your comments are not helpful at all.

And not all red units are overpowered just because you happen to personally have problems with them.

If a unit is OP, you have avalanche of threads about it.
This is first ISU post since 6 months across .org, steam and official forums.

And if steam and official forums do not cry about something, you can be 100% sure its not an issue.

25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

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22 Mar 2020, 13:13 PMT.R. Stormjäger

You have Elephant/Jagdtiger in teamgames. L2P

ISU has IL2 in the same doctrine.

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22 Mar 2020, 15:11 PMblvckdream

ISU has IL2 in the same doctrine.

And has, since it's inception. The same tactics that worked then still work now, namely looking out for the flares and moving

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22 Mar 2020, 15:25 PMthedarkarmadillo

The same tactics that worked then still work now, namely looking out for the flares and moving

Lol yup

And with spotting scopes should give you plenty of time to react to a t34 trying to ram for il2 setup

ISU also has one of the longest reload times in the game, I don't see how needing to retreat/move before the 2nd shot is an issue. 2 shotting tanks was one thing, squads is something else

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22 Mar 2020, 15:28 PMSkysTheLimit

Lol yup

And with spotting scopes should give you plenty of time to react to a t34 trying to ram for il2 setup

Yea the "can't move if rammed" business makes me laugh... The enemy charged at least 70 range into your line with nothing between it and the center piece of your army then called in a 200mu strike and its a balance issue? OK.....

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22 Mar 2020, 15:34 PMthedarkarmadillo

Yea the "can't move if rammed" business makes me laugh... The enemy charged at least 70 range into your line with nothing between it and the center piece of your army then called in a 200mu strike and its a balance issue? OK.....

Exactly, and they are most likely throwing away 90 fuel at least on top of that. It's worth it for an elefant but it sure ain't free

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Hilarious how 4 digit players can apparently easily dodge T34 rams while high level players can't.

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22 Mar 2020, 15:11 PMblvckdream

ISU has IL2 in the same doctrine.

Jäger armour isn’t too shabby either.

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22 Mar 2020, 15:11 PMblvckdream

ISU has IL2 in the same doctrine.

Yes, and Jaeger Armor has Elefant, spotting scopes, recon, and Stuka dive bomb.
Breakthrough has Panzerfusiliers plus JT (and a badly OP assault arty)

Is there another Axis faction that somehow doesn't have decent counters? Or does every allied unit need nerfs if you can't YOLO into it and win?

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22 Mar 2020, 15:57 PMGrumpy

Yes, and Jaeger Armor has Elefant, spotting scopes, recon, and Stuka dive bomb.
Breakthrough has Panzerfusiliers plus JT (and a badly OP assault arty)

Is there another Axis faction that somehow doesn't have decent counters? Or does every allied unit need nerfs if you can't YOLO into it and win?

Thanks for explaining what Breakthrough contains. We had no idea that the amazing Jagdtiger was in it.

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22 Mar 2020, 15:53 PMblvckdream

Hilarious how 4 digit players can apparently easily dodge T34 rams while high level players can't.

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