fallschirmjager units are too broken imo

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2020, 00:14 AMelchino7

Hits apply AoE suppression. AoE suppression seems to apply to the entity itself, therefore it matters.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2020, 00:09 AMKatitof

You might want to learn to retreat before your last man is on 20% of health while needing to run through multiple enemy vehicles, across literally whole map.

Good thing noobness isn't infectious, so you don't need to be contained.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2020, 17:09 PMWiderstreit

Change the T70 with 222 and T34 with Panzer4 and make the test. They will perform worse. ;D

Simply try it, I know you never do it.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2020, 17:17 PMKatitof

Umm.... P4 got better AI then T34 and 222 is NOT equivalent of T70, not even 2 are, neither in cost nor in performance.

You're trying to say something here or just wanted to write an exceptionally stupid post?

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2020, 17:21 PMWiderstreit

You play the same game? P4 isn't better than T34 versus inf, T34 often performs way better only because of the broken hull-mg having same DPS as bouth P4 MGs but forcing on one squad-member so it becomes a weapon-crew-fuker.

So your argument is, that T70 is allowed to hunt units on retread that effective? Answer is no, it simply overperforms.

You would be first crying if the game gets balanced and all unfrair sh*t get fixed, boy.

Edit: There is no excuse for an unit with that price fuking so effective. T70 shouldn't perform better that Luchs, T70 has the advanatge to defend itself versus 222 and can hunt Panzerwerfers etc. BUT it shouldn't be such a no-brainer.

Maybe you should play OKW/OKH again, then you see how units should perform? Not only play op-stuff and rub your dong.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2020, 08:34 AMSander93

A simple test shows that RA seems to do nothing to slow down suppression. Vet 3 Rangers (target size of 0.57) get suppressed at the same time as vet 0 Assault Engineers (target size of 1).



In the same test also a 6 men squad (Paratroopers) gets suppressed just as fast as a 4 men squad (vehicle crew) so at first glance squad size does not seem have a noticeable effect either.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2020, 17:33 PMKatitof

Now, that's some advanced stupid right there you've produced.
1) P4 shoots FASTER and got better AoE and lower scatter.
2) That's pure asspull bullshit about the MG.
3) T70 is a TANK that uses SCATTER and AoE to deal damage. 222 is ARMORED CAR which uses its COAX MG primarily to deal damage to infantry with lucky occasional hits from main 20mm. You're comparing apples to bananas here.


And yet, here we are, with you doing just exactly that.


Umm, yeah, there is an excuse for that.
T70 comes later and costs more.
Its called balance.
But:
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Maybe you should stop hugging that Manstein bodypillow and accept some facts about cost efficiency, prices, timings and relations between these things?

Cheaper units perform worse.
Incomparably cheaper units that cost less then 50% of what you compare it to will perform less then 50% of what you compare it to.

Deal with it, boy.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2020, 18:18 PMWiderstreit

You pay for T2-building, so 222 is cheaper. It doesn't arrives that earlier than T70, doesn't is an argument T70 ouperforms as hell.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2020, 18:34 PMT.R. Stormjäger

So on a thread about Falls people have to explain to Widestrait why some Ostheer guy who attempted a horrible baserape deserved to lose his 1-man squads and why balance is irrelevant in that scenario.

Nice

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2020, 07:26 AMToxicfirebal

Just remove the snare

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2020, 05:04 AMdistrofio

Removing the falls snares will end up in them being bullied by the shittiest yet abundant Light vehicles allied has.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2020, 16:16 PMLago

That's the point.

That's how Obersoldaten, Paratroopers, Commandos, Shock Troops, Rangers and Jaeger Light Infantry are balanced.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2020, 16:27 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Support Paratroopers lay M6 mines. Haven’t seen you bitch about them. They can also pick up elite bazookas.

Same with Commandos, camouflage, demo, double PIATs.

Rangers can pick up triple elite bazookas.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2020, 16:16 PMLago

That's the point.

That's how Obersoldaten, Paratroopers, Commandos, Shock Troops, Rangers and Jaeger Light Infantry are balanced.