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Thread: Partisans are underpowered19 May 2020, 19:32 PM Concussive trap is quite bad, I mean, its OK ability for the cost, but it doesn't help partisans themselves as affected squad will recover before you'll get in effective range(and their bullets literally falling down to the ground above range 10 does not help), assuming you're not right at the edge of capping circle on the opposing side. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Partisans are underpowered19 May 2020, 14:09 PM The only thing they need is better scaling. Base stats are fine, but there is no reward for keeping them alife. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Partisans are underpowered19 May 2020, 13:57 PM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 13:50 PMStug life they can easily flank undeteced unlike cons or ass greens No, they can't, unless everything you move across is a solid cover. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pioneers after early game19 May 2020, 13:11 PM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 13:07 PMKONIUX27 smines are visible, like wtf Go ahead and explain why top players keep using them then. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Partisans are underpowered19 May 2020, 10:50 AM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 10:30 AMVipper It seem we use the term cost efficiency differently. For me it has to do with if what you get comes at the right price. And for me AI partisan bring at least enough for their price. And that's the problem with your definition of cost efficiency. Initial impact is not the only thing to consider with ambush units, or units in general - long term cost efficiency also matters. This is why cheap abilities can be cost effective, but cheap units we've had in the game needed tons of buffs to be cost efficient. Just go over history of SU-76, conscripts, osttruppen and M-42 if you struggle to understand the concept of unit cost efficiency. Since Partisan no longer come at 40 HP imo one should allow merge. That's putting a band aid on a broken limb. Their base stats are fine, but they need to scale better as well. Lower reinforce with vet, 5th man, better rec acc, anything really to make them relevant and rewarding if they are kept alife. No one wants cheap commandos here, just a unit that isn't clogging your pop cap. Jump back to quoted post18 May 2020, 22:57 PMStug life please do look up partisan vet vs stormtropper vet , tell me how bad it is Con vet was also on pair with gren vet. Could you guess why con vet was raised and cons ended up with upgrade eventually? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Close the pocket19 May 2020, 09:32 AM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 09:19 AMDarkpiatre I didn't count any reco needed for the Stuka Dive bomb either, which lead to a price higher than the supremacy ( and i'm sure dropping 3 supremacy is easier than 1 Close the Pocket for a similar price and results). Encirclement stuka doesn't require FoW. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Partisans are underpowered18 May 2020, 22:29 PM Jump back to quoted post18 May 2020, 22:20 PMSkysTheLimit Make AT partisans pay Muni for their shreck. If they need to keep the shock value of the shreck, just add Muni cost to the squad. But imo it should be an upgrade The point is not to make it even less appealing commander. And 1 shreck on extremely squishy squad of 4 men that doesn't scale well and can't do any dmg to infantry at all is a fair price. AT parsitans rifles are weapon crew level(medic squad can kill them as it has 3x more AI dps), so 100% of the price for firepower goes to shreck. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Vote for: Perimeter Overwatch Change18 May 2020, 19:44 PM Jump back to quoted post18 May 2020, 17:14 PMKieselberg Removing Vision would solve the problem; Therefore youd still need scouting or the use of another scouting effect. It would also remove the point of the ability, there would be no reason what so ever over using any other offmap. Jump back to quoted post18 May 2020, 19:22 PMVipper The ability should not be in the commander. The sheer volume of arty this commander can produce is simply too much. Replace it with counter barrage that should also not be available in the emplacement commander. Have you checked the name and theme of the commander yet? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Vote for: Perimeter Overwatch Change18 May 2020, 13:16 PM Jump back to quoted post18 May 2020, 12:59 PMJibberJabberJobber Well Tightrope used it incorrectly because none of his base buildings are set up, meaning none of the howitzers participated in barraging the enemy. Here you see the full effect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDf6SDp1uX0 2 base howi's firing + occassional offmap mortar shells + occassional offmap howi shells. Howitzers also can't barrage every single sector all at once, just focusing on one. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The Rage Quit?18 May 2020, 12:09 PM Jump back to quoted post18 May 2020, 12:09 PMLady Xenarra There's also the people who refuse to surrender even though it's 400-100 (theirs) VPs and their side's armor have been resoundingly crushed. Well, at top level we've seen plenty of comebacks from that kind of situations. In: Lobby