What a quite obvious rage post.
Before complaining about the OP brits just play a decent amounts of time against them or even better: play as brits (if you own them unlike me).
Most of the stuff you have written is just nonesense. You compare apples and oranges. The Comet is as good because it costs 185 fuel. The sniper is in T2 and so on. The only thing that is op is the centaur atm.
You completely dunno what I talked about.
I'm talking about the tech cost for late games between the 2 fations. The huge difference between them. Yes I know the centaur is OP, I own the brits and I play this faction. |
Brits don't have a start sniper, it's in T2.
Except the firefly is way costlier and probably less effective.
It's easily the worst handheld in the game, it always misses against a decent player.
The only thing about Brits that I find really OP right now is how stupid strong the centaur is (and the croc perhaps, but that one comes quite late). But after OCF I'm sure that it'll see a nerf soon.
Yes I know the sniper is in T2, the start units, well, I mean the T1 + T2 units.
Firefly can wipe out a Pz4 or JP4 with one shot + tulips.
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They are supposed to stand up to axis armies late game with their stock armor and that is exactly what they do.
But too effective.
Also ostheer suffers from mid game light armor rushing but they have no late stock tech gameplay because of the HIGHEST tech cost of all factions.Both ost and brits are supposed to have a struggle early game, not only brits.Then what Im talking is the mid-late game comparison. |
glaring lack of indirect fire options, heavy mp bleed. surely you have played against ost who have set up a good position with mortars mg snipers and grenadiers.
good luck getting up a centaur before his panzer4 with that kind of heavy mp bleed.
The early game is another issue,I dunno maybe they should slightly buff it,I feel the mortar replacement is a bad design though.It have very long range but immobile,and the late nerf to the brace makes it less effective.But pls talk about the mid-late game. |
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Well Relic makes the brits a mid-late period faction,I found this faction has so many same things with the ostheer. They both have 4-men core infantry with excellent LMG upgrades,both have start MGs,snipers,and even their AT guns have the same stats,both have good medium tank tech (centaur=ostwind,cromwell=pz4,stug=firefly),and both have stock heavy armor tech.So I really like playing the Brits since it's just another ostheer faction in Allies.But, compared to the ostheer, it's just too effective playing late games as the brits. Yes I'm talking about the mid-late games not the early games,if you want to talk,open another thread pls.
Well as the ostheer,you spend 10+40+20+45+75-20=170 fuel to tech to the mediums tech,after building a medium tank,then you must wait for another 200+160=360MP and 45+75=120 fuel to tech to the heavies tech. After the shit long time tech+building upgrade(more than 1 minutes),wanna get a panther which can only anti tank?That's another 175 fuel...Wanna a "super" 800HP "Great" Brumbar which can "rip" infantry?Another 160 fuel...
As the brits,well that's another story.A really good story...You spend 15(PIAT is a must IMO)+30+115-20=140 fuel to tech to the mediums tech,after building a medium tank(maybe the OP centaur),then you just need 200 MP + 60 fuel to tech to the heavies tech.The upgrade only takes 30 seconds and it doesn't need a worker squard...You can build a brilliant tank which can both anti infantry and anti tank. For 185 fuel cost.IMO the Comet is the best best medium tank of the game.High speed,quick reload time,50 range,excellent penetration(190),also the high front and rear armor(290/180).Not to mention it can smoke itself without a doctrine and it can throw grenedes itself. Or you can build a SUPER well-known 1600HP Great Churchill which can eat 5 shots of an elefant or 10 shots of a panther.For just 150 fuel cost...And you can spam the Churchills...just laughing at the enemy...it's slow?well is it slower than KT?or JT?or elefant?No,it's just a little slower than a tiger.
So guys and Relic,I mean,is it fair??? Well well I really love playing as the brits.For me,forget the poor ostheer,I'm a brits player now... |
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The stock Churchill HP should be decreased to 1280, and cost increased to 180 fuel. Yes it really needs a heavy nerf. Churchill spam ruined late team games. Just no fun to play against the Churchill spam. |
I feel like its fine. It's slow, has a lower rate of fire, gimped pen and average AOE. Its entire purpose is to soak up damage, and for the most part thats all it does. A slight fuel increase may be in order but thats it.
Brumbar is slow too, it has only half HP of the Churchill, but 10 more fuel cost than Churchill.And you feel it's fine then? |
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160 fuel Brumbar with 800HP, while 150 fuel Churchill with 1600HP. Relic you make me just lol. |
Thread: Centaur28 Sep 2015, 11:06 AM
Also the Centaur comes out way too quick.
You want to build a Centaur,you need 30+115+100-20=225fuel(if rush)
You want bo build an Ostwind,you need 10+40+20+45+75+100-20=270fuel(no 222/251) |
give it 25 more pen all ranges, problem solved.
Agreed. Or change nothing but reduce the fuel cost to 110 fuel. |
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