v1s were not used in a tactical capacity, infrared assault rifles weren’t used, and don’t get me started on units like the strum tiger, you’re fighting a losing argument
V1 was used tactically, the Germans tried several times to blow up the bridge over the Oder with V1 on March 15, 1945. The first time was successful - 4 bridge spans were blown up, 20 sappers were killed and more than 30 were wounded. The sappers managed to eliminate the consequences of a missile strike and restore the destroyed part of the bridge within two nights, and the command strengthened its anti-aircraft cover. On March 19, another attack on the bridge. This time, dense anti-aircraft gun fire forced the pilot of the carrier aircraft to deviate somewhat from the course. Therefore, the rocket exploded not on the bridge, but just downstream, causing only minor damage, also rubbing about a dozen soldiers. |
But it was fabricated before the end of the war. And could have been driven to the front. Just like a V2 'could' have been used tactically, and that's all the justification we apparently need to drop one onto an infantryman's head.
The hardware existed.
V2 was used tactically, they tried to blow up the bridge, I don't remember exactly, need to look for information in more detail. |
The BP was in the time frame and units of WW2. It never driving to the front lines doesn't mean it wasn't roaming around under its own power before the end of the war.
A slight allowance for the UKF to fill out a tank role it doesn't otherwise have an appropriate unit for is not the same as picking the IS-3 when the IS-2 is already filling that niche.
No, I was not. By taking a certain time frame, you accept their limitations. That's it, the end of the discussion. The Black Prince is still in testing after the end of the war. If you want to go beyond the limits - take the operation "Unthinkable" with its tanks not in time for the war: Black Prince, Centurrion, T-44, IS-3. There are no restrictions here. And there is a huge scope for imagination. |
Loads of things in CoH are nonsense.
Tactical V2s, Ai pilot goliaths, sturmtiger barrages.
There's a clear purpose as to why they would allow parity in heavy tanks, given they are such a large part of the game's meta, and the allies did indeed build and test the vehicles (but never sent them anywhere)
The Russians already have a late war heavy tank in service, so there's no need to include anything that never saw service.
The British have it too, so what's stopping us from shoving the IS-3? Just because. Once again, we will remain in the time frame and units of the Second World War, all the same, units can be bent as you like for the sake of balance. |
I mean, they are literally not the same.
The BP at least was designed, and built and tested and worked (slowly). It just never got driven out to the front.
Unlike the P2, or any other outlandish designs like the Maus which had nothing but an empty hull.
And not that he did not participate and not even close to being in the war (Especially in Italy). Once again, this is nonsense. Today it is the Black Prince, tomorrow it is T-44, IS-3 and so on. All this just creates a precedent that the game would turn from a game based on the Second World War into a World of Tanks. |
Regardless, still, P40 performs no better than a Sherman. So, what, you want the whole Italian army in the game only to have P40(which is most likely to be doctrinal) as their best tank? If you think M15s are good enough, then go ahead and build an Italian roster that only has M15 as their best non-doc tank.
I think Italy has enough units for the faction: M15/42 main tank and Semovente da 75/34 and Semovente da 90/53 as anti-tank. P26/40 doctrinal tank with the ability to switch between ordinary and HEAT shells. |
Seriously, time to stop this drama.
If you guys want to see an independent Italian, or maybe the Japanese forces present in the game. There is no other way but to introduce some phototypes or even pure made-up units. Neither of these two countries even had a formidable army during the war.
Let us be honest here, at least in CoH2, the main deciding factor in the late games in team games are how many heavy tanks each player has. Which, to some degree, is a great blessing to the German force but a complete turn down for the Italian and the Japanese. P40 never served in the Italian army. Type-3, oh well, got somewhat present in the war, was still only a direct counterpart to the Sherman.
That is being said, if any of you guys think you are smart enough to present a roster for those two forces without introducing any phototype. Go ahead, do it, and show them here.
Wrong answer. One of the few Carro Armato P 40s used by RSI (Repubblica Sociale Italiana). This tank was abandoned at the end of May 1945 in Milan.
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I'm waiting for Renault D1 who fought against both the Allies and the Germans in Africa in 1943.
http://www.tankarchives.ca/2017/06/renault-d1-ft-on-steroids.html
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I think the Black Prince does not belong in the game, he is not part of the Second World War. Britain has enough units for the faction, they don't need a paper tank. I could still understand if it was the Japanese faction, which is very sad with tanks, guns, etc. That Japan most likely consisted purely of paper or tanks that did not have time to take part in the war. |
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It is worth waiting for such units as P26/40, M15/42, Semovente da 105/25, Semovente da 75/18, Semovente da 75/34, Autoblinda 43, Semovente da 90/53. |
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